<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4174"><span>Hank,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4271"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4270">how would you configure the ballast tanks?</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4178"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4269">You could have something like a truck inner tube around the top section</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4175"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4267">that could be deflated & cause very little drag & would also give good stability.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4175">However you wouldn't be able to transit horizontally on the surface.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4175"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4988">Alan</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4365"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4364"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4363"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_4362"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_5077"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 25, 2015 3:12 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new sub project<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1432545952019_5078"><br><br clear="none">Alec,<br clear="none">I am not thinking flyer at all. The water clarity would not support the speed. I am thinking of a simple tiny light sub that can launch anywhere even off the deck of my boat. It is just a though right now.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">For now I am enjoying my what seems gigantic bow dome. The visibility is unbelievable, the modification cost and effort has been well worth it. As a bonus, my payload is back to 500 lbs plus. I had to fill the sub with steel plates to get it to sink. :-)<br clear="none">Hank --------------------------------------------<br clear="none">On Sun, 5/24/15, Private via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] new sub project<br clear="none"> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> Received: Sunday, May 24, 2015, 10:38 PM<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Indeed! Except mine went<br clear="none"> vertical only for emergency exit rather than as standard<br clear="none"> procedure. It was not going to have any freeboard to speak<br clear="none"> of in vertical mode, so you would climb out in a hurry and<br clear="none"> watch her sink from under you. The method of going vertical<br clear="none"> was dropping the emergency weight, which was located at the<br clear="none"> very front. More than the front actually, it stuck out and<br clear="none"> constituted your crash bar. The sub was a "flyer",<br clear="none"> a poor man's Deep Flight. I had her 90% complete when I<br clear="none"> bought Snoopy, and the flyer project sat untouched for many<br clear="none"> years while Snoopy took up all my time and served as a<br clear="none"> classroom. The sub I'm finally finishing up now recycles<br clear="none"> the flyer hull, but redone to be conventional. Well,<br clear="none"> conventional in the sense of having ballast tanks and a<br clear="none"> conning tower - she's actually a pretty bizarre beast as<br clear="none"> the folks who come to the convention will see! My conclusion<br clear="none"> was that a flyer must be great fun but requires both<br clear="none"> unusually clear water and a vessel capable of laun!<br clear="none"> ching the sub at the dive site. If I owned a<br clear="none"> mega yacht and cruised the Galapagos, a flyer would be just<br clear="none"> the thing. But what I'm aiming for now is radical<br clear="none"> simplicity, whereas the old one was all touch screens,<br clear="none"> servos, PLCs, and such.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Best,<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Alec<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> > On May 24, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Jon Wallace<br clear="none"> via Personal_Submersibles <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> wrote:<br clear="none"> > <br clear="none"> > <br clear="none"> > Talk to Alec, he was building such a<br clear="none"> design years ago before he acquired SNOOPY and ultimately<br clear="none"> decided against it...but I don't recall why.<br clear="none"> > <br clear="none"> > <br clear="none"> >> On 5/24/2015 6:31 PM, hank pronk via<br clear="none"> Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br clear="none"> >> Yes,<br clear="none"> you float it to the dock side, then tip it vertical to get<br clear="none"> in, close the hatch, tip it horizontal, and your away. <br clear="none"> Saves building a CT that my 200lb sexy frame can fit into<br clear="none"> :-)<br clear="none"> >><br clear="none"> Hank--------------------------------------------<br clear="none"> > <br clear="none"> ><br clear="none"> _______________________________________________<br clear="none"> > Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"> > <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"> > <a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yqt7843529321" id="yqtfd01767"><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> _______________________________________________<br clear="none"> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>