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Hugh,</SPAN><SPAN
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system was designed by me, but like everything, it also has purchased parts. The
oxygen is delivered by a standard cylinder/regulator/flow meter, setup to
deliver at the standard rate that will be consumed, this can be adjusted since
there are variables like; the number of occupants, etc.. an O2 high/low alarm
helps ensure the range is maintained. This O2 is delivered to the cabin, through
the CO2 scrubber since it has a fan and will help disperse the O2 into the
cabin. It is also connected to the scrubber to ensure O2 and scrubbed/filtered
air is delivered directly to full face respirators (and not the fire) for
consumption in an emergency situation. In this situation, the occupant’s lungs
do the work, not a fan, since electrical power may not be available. The
scrubber is designed around using "Pre-Pak" carbon dioxide absorbent containers
that can be quickly changed out, they eliminate the possibility of dusting the
cabin with absorbent. It has two pwm fans (one is a backup), and
an air filter. Combating a fire, may be best done with a Super Soaker
filled with deionized water.</SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: blue; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>This
system is compact, fairly simply and very reliable. I would like to offer it as
a purchasable kit someday to those wanting a complete system.</SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: blue; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>Yes,
one of these days I should add my stuff to the photos section of the PSUBS
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Personal_Submersibles
[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Hugh Fulton
via Personal_Submersibles<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:42
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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Adam,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>It
would be nice to see some photos or something on your system. Did you buy
it or make it?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>If
there is a fire then the oxygen will burn up. So how do you monitor the
amount you will need? Also if you have some fire extinguisher you may be adding
other chemicals to the air inside which a BIBS system will negate.
Interesting subject. Hugh<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Adam Lawrence via Personal_Submersibles<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday,
12 March 2015 3:25 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> 'Personal Submersibles General
Discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast
air<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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Allen,</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: blue'>What
I have is simpler than a full blown rebreather.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: blue'>The
oxygen supply/flow enters the cabin at the scrubber canister. The canister has
an air filter on it already (dust/smoke/hydrogen sulfide...). The emergency
piece of equipment is a full face mask with a hose that connects to the scrubber
assembly (fan off) on the inhale side, exhale goes back into the
cabin.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: blue'>The next
simple version may be just a full face mask with dust/vapor cartridge, good
enough to keep your eyes and lungs clean while making a quick
ascent.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: blue'>Those
millionaires get all the toys.</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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Personal_Submersibles [<A
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:27 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Personal Submersibles General
Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast
air</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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Adam,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>that would require a
rebreather style set up to do that.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I believe they had a
rebreather back up on James Camerons sub.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>A bit expensive
& complicated.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> Adam
Lawrence via Personal_Submersibles <<A
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'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <<A
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<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:27 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><BR>For emergencies,
wouldn’t you use a full-face mask connected to a CO2<BR>scrubber and air filter
and pure oxygen, all on the inhale side...<BR><BR>Compressed scuba air would
increase cabin pressure and make things<BR>uncomfortable...<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<A
href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</A>]<BR>On
Behalf Of hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<BR>Sent: Wednesday, March 11,
2015 10:26 AM<BR>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<BR>Subject: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR><BR><BR>Brian,<BR>I don't mean oxygen, I
mean regular scuba air. I have and am sure all<BR>other subs have
scuba breathing apparatus for emergencies like smoke. I<BR>take air from
my ballast supply for that purpose. If your ballast air is<BR>Nitrogen
then you will need an extra tank for emergency breathing. <BR>Hank
--------------------------------------------<BR>On Wed, 3/11/15, Brian Cox via
Personal_Submersibles<BR><<A
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wrote:<BR><BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR>To: "Personal
Submersibles General Discussion"<BR><<A
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Wednesday, March 11, 2015, 10:18 AM<BR><BR>Yes, my oxygen will be a
separate<BR>tank, or tanks.<BR><BR>Brian<BR><BR>--- <A
href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A><BR>wrote:<BR><BR>From:
hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<BR><<A
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Personal Submersibles General Discussion<BR><<A
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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR>Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 05:37:11
-0700<BR><BR>Brian,<BR>You must be planning to have a separate tank for
emergency air for<BR>breathing, in case of fire
etc.<BR>Hank<BR>--------------------------------------------<BR>On Wed, 3/11/15,
Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<BR><<A
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Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<BR> To: "PSubs" <<A
href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>><BR>
Received: Wednesday, March 11, 2015, 2:50 AM<BR> <BR> I'm planning
on having<BR> 3 - 300cu ft air cylinders for my ballast supply
air.<BR> I noticed that if I get them filled with nitrogen it is<BR>
cheaper than getting breathing or industrial air<BR> ! That
is, until I get my own<BR> compressor. Brian<BR> <BR>
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