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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Adam,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It would be nice to see some photos or something on your system. Did you buy it or make it?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If there is a fire then the oxygen will burn up. So how do you monitor the amount you will need? Also if you have some fire extinguisher you may be adding other chemicals to the air inside which a BIBS system will negate. Interesting subject. Hugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adam Lawrence via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 12 March 2015 3:25 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Hi Allen,</span><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>What I have is simpler than a full blown rebreather.</span><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>The oxygen supply/flow enters the cabin at the scrubber canister. The canister has an air filter on it already (dust/smoke/hydrogen sulfide...). The emergency piece of equipment is a full face mask with a hose that connects to the scrubber assembly (fan off) on the inhale side, exhale goes back into the cabin.</span><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>The next simple version may be just a full face mask with dust/vapor cartridge, good enough to keep your eyes and lungs clean while making a quick ascent.</span><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Those millionaires get all the toys.</span><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Adam</span><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan James via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi Adam,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>that would require a rebreather style set up to do that.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I believe they had a rebreather back up on James Camerons sub.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>A bit expensive & complicated.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6154"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6761"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6760"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_6759"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Adam Lawrence via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b>To:</b> 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:27 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426112015002_7452"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>For emergencies, wouldn’t you use a full-face mask connected to a CO2<br>scrubber and air filter and pure oxygen, all on the inhale side...<br><br>Compressed scuba air would increase cabin pressure and make things<br>uncomfortable...<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>]<br>On Behalf Of hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br>Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:26 AM<br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br><br><br>Brian,<br>I don't mean oxygen, I mean regular scuba air. I have and am sure all<br>other subs have scuba breathing apparatus for emergencies like smoke. I<br>take air from my ballast supply for that purpose. If your ballast air is<br>Nitrogen then you will need an extra tank for emergency breathing. <br>Hank --------------------------------------------<br>On Wed, 3/11/15, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<br><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br>To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"<br><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Received: Wednesday, March 11, 2015, 10:18 AM<br><br>Yes, my oxygen will be a separate<br>tank, or tanks.<br><br>Brian<br><br>--- <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a><br>wrote:<br><br>From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br>Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 05:37:11 -0700<br><br>Brian,<br>You must be planning to have a separate tank for emergency air for<br>breathing, in case of fire etc.<br>Hank<br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Wed, 3/11/15, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles<br><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>wrote:<br><br> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ballast air<br> To: "PSubs" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br> Received: Wednesday, March 11, 2015, 2:50 AM<br> <br> I'm planning on having<br> 3 - 300cu ft air cylinders for my ballast supply air.<br> I noticed that if I get them filled with nitrogen it is<br> cheaper than getting breathing or industrial air<br> ! 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