<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>I think considering the price of foam, they are probably worth it to cut weight and add duration. I am going to have to make the next UI. </div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone</div></div><div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br>Date:02/03/2015 2:34 AM (GMT-06:00) <br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br>Cc: <br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lithium batteries <br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Scott,<br></div>Two years ago the cost was $7000 for a single battery when I attended the UI convention. They might be cheaper this year. Want me to pick you up a couple, I know they are supposed to be at the the Ui event this year as well. Wy and I will be attending. I will need a bigger suit case to bring them home however.<br><br> <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Best Regards,<br>David Colombo<br><img src="http://static.squarespace.com/static/533310a9e4b0fba62008a464/t/5339c1f2e4b041bac4e25d1b/1396294132055/?format=500w" height="110" width="200"><br>804 College Ave<br>Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br>(707) 536-1424<br><a href="http://www.SeaQuestor.com" target="_blank">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><br><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:04 PM, <a href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a> via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Thanks for the info Alan!</div><div>-Scott Waters</div><span class=""><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone</div></div><div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br></span><div><div class="h5">Date:02/02/2015 12:32 PM (GMT-06:00) <br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br>Cc: <br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lithium batteries <br><br><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"><span>Iam not sure about that battery Scott,</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>but these are pressure resistant & have a compensation module.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.swe.com/seasafe-subsea-modules/" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">SWE Seasafe subsea Battery Modules SWE | Southwest Electronic Energy Group</a><br></div><div style="width:450px;font-family:'Georgia','Times','Times New Roman','serif';margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;background-color:#ffffff"><table style="width:450px;height:170px;display:block" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="8" style="height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;border-collapse:collapse"><div 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style="color:black;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank"><span style="display:inline-block;line-height:11px;max-width:145px;min-width:85px;overflow:hidden;max-height:13px;word-break:break-all"><span style="vertical-align:middle;font-size:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999">View on <span style="font-weight:bold">www.swe.com</span></span></span></a></div></td><td style="vertical-align:middle;width:100px;font-family:'Arial','Helvetica Neue','Helvetica','sans-serif'"><div style="max-width:100px;min-width:80px;overflow:hidden;text-align:right;line-height:11px;max-height:13px;font-size:0pt"><span style="vertical-align:middle;font-size:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999">Preview by Yahoo</span></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" style="height:9px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="min-height:9px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:9pt"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="8" style="height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;border-collapse:collapse"><div style="min-height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;line-height:0px"> </div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div dir="ltr"> I couldn't remember their name, then looked at the T shirt they gave me </div><div dir="ltr">at the last underwater intervention convention:)</div><div dir="ltr">They will possibly be in New Orleans for this February's U. I. convention.</div><div dir="ltr">There is an exhibitor list.</div><div dir="ltr">Alan</div><br> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" target="_blank">swaters@waters-ks.com</a> via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:51 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lithium batteries<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div><div>Great info Alan. Do you know if those batteries are soild or do they contain air? I am wanting to do compensated batteries for my new submarine to keep the weight down.</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone</div></div><div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-------- Original message --------<br clear="none">From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none">Date:02/02/2015 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) <br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none">Cc: <br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lithium batteries <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><br><br></div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"><span>Scott,</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>the DW2000s are using lithium iron batteries manufactured by this</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>North America company...</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://beckettenergy.com/advanced-maritime-battery-systems/" target="_blank">http://beckettenergy.com/advanced-maritime-battery-systems/</a><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr">At the bottom of the page is a link to their dealings with Nuytco.</div><div dir="ltr">The DW2000 batteries are in sealed pods as per usual.</div><div dir="ltr">There is a new battery technology that the electric car market is excited about;</div><div dir="ltr">lithium sulphur. They have already proven to be 5 x more energy dense than</div><div dir="ltr">lithium polymer batteries. They are also expected to be cheaper than lead acid</div><div dir="ltr">per kilowatt of energy. I am hoping they will be available in a couple of years</div><div dir="ltr">when I finish my next sub. So I am designing to have battery pods that will</div><div dir="ltr">be fitted with lead acid batteries, but are hoping I can put lithiuym sulphur</div><div dir="ltr">in them. What I am trying to do is avoid spending a huge amount on a lithium</div><div dir="ltr">battery that will soon be superceded by the lithium sulphur or lithium air.</div><div dir="ltr">Alan</div><div dir="ltr"> </div><div> </div><br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" target="_blank">swaters@waters-ks.com</a> via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> psubs <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 2, 2015 3:18 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lithium batteries<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div>I am working on my new sub design and am trying to do everything possable to keep the weight down. One of my thoughts is to not use AGM batteries and use lithium. A few questions about lithium batteries. Does anyone have a source for them? Also are they completely filled so you could compensate them? Maybe use the enclosure like Deep Sea Power and Light?</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone</div></div><div></div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div><br><div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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