<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>Gotcha. I got about 8 different suppliers I have found so far with SS cylinders. I think I'll order a few to play with. I am also planning on using electric silionoids for controlling the valves.</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone</div></div><div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br>Date:01/21/2015  6:54 AM  (GMT-06:00) <br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm <br><br><br>Scott,<br>Gamma uses air cylinders with hydraulic fluid and pump.  The hydraulic system is very standard except it uses air cylinders in place of hydraulic cylinders.  <br>Hank--------------------------------------------<br>On Tue, 1/20/15, swaters@waters-ks.com via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br><br> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm<br> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> Received: Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 10:27 PM<br> <br> <br> Is Gamma all air cylinders? Do you just use<br> a air compressor? What happens to the air once it is in the<br> cylinder and you want to lower the cylinder? Is it<br> recompressed or somehow expelled? I really don't know<br> crap about pnematics. Haha. Why do all the subs use<br> hydrolics and not air. For example<br> hydro-lek?Thanks,Scott<br> Waters<br> <br> Sent<br> from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone<br> <br> -------- Original message --------<br> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles  <br> Date:01/20/2015  9:06 PM  (GMT-06:00) <br> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion  <br> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm <br> <br> <br> Scott,<br> Not sure why you want hydraulic cylinders.  You want<br> air cylinders, they are light weight and all aluminum. <br> If you use 2 in bore air cylinders you can run on a 500 psi<br> system.  Also air cylinders typically have 5/8 rods and<br> that is the most important part.  The rod size is what<br> the water pressure is pushing back against you system. <br> Air cylinders have a single o ring on the piston and are<br> cheap and easy to replace. If you want ss rods then just<br> replace the chrome rods when they wear out.  I made my<br> own rods for Gamma, easy peezy.<br> Hank--------------------------------------------<br> On Tue, 1/20/15, swaters@waters-ks.com via<br> Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> <br>  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm<br>  To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br>  Received: Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 8:52 PM<br>  <br>  Hydrolic.<br>  Also what size bore does yoursub have<br>  Hank?Thanks,Scott Waters<br>  <br>  Sent<br>  from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone<br>  <br>  -------- Original message --------<br>  From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles  <br>  Date:01/20/2015  7:34 PM  (GMT-06:00) <br>  To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion  <br>  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm <br>  <br>  <br>  Are you using hydraulic cylinders or air cylinders.<br>  Hank--------------------------------------------<br>  On Tue, 1/20/15, swaters@waters-ks.com via<br>  Personal_Submersibles<br>  <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br>  <br>   Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm<br>   To: "psubs"<br>  <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br>   Received: Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 7:51 PM<br>   <br>   Does<br>   anyone have a reccomendation on a source for<br> hydrolic<br>   cylinders? Ofcourse there are tons online, just<br> wondering<br>  if<br>   someone has a particular place they like to get<br>   them.Thanks,Scott Waters<br>   <br>   Sent<br>   from my U.S. Cellular®<br>   Smartphone<br>   -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br>   <br>   _______________________________________________<br>   Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br>   Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org<br>  <br> http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles<br>   <br>  <br>  _______________________________________________<br>  Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br>  Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org<br>  http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles<br>  <br>  <br>  -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<br>  <br>  _______________________________________________<br>  Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br>  Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org<br>  http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles<br>  <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br> Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org<br> http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles<br> <br> <br> -----Inline Attachment Fo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