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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Scott,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I bought the Comsub off Silvercrest and got done. Also heard of a couple of others who had unhappy dealings with them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>They are showing Comsub as on their sales page without any contact with me. Basically they are a one man & wife team with extravagant claims on the Website.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Read Vance’s 2<sup>nd</sup> sentence and remember it. Hugh<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>via Personal_Submersibles<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 6 January 2015 10:36 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> personal_submersibles@psubs.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Anything is possible, Scott. SIlvercrest will skin you alive, given half an opportunity. Or at least they'll try. You have to be willing to wrangle with them. I don't think they'll respect anyone who doesn't. Maybe Phil has an extra one laying around. I've never asked. You could do a lot worse, if the hulls are salvageable. There are four pressure vessels (except on Leo). The personnel sphere, an aft floatation sphere, and the two 32" forward VBTs (that's what is under the fiberglas brow that makes the P boats so distinctive. And the boats weigh from ten to twelve tons, depending. Just in case you want to check your air-ride flatbeds for load capability. The P-VI was the most perfect hull Hyco ever did--it was fabricated in Jacques Piccard's shop in Switzerland under contract, and was lap finished, as I understand it--both inside and out. Lovely thing, P-VI. I remember her well. Maybe it could be had, if IUC hasn't rolled it out into a dumpster. That might be another question for our Dr. Phil, as I have zero contacts up that way anymore. Keep me in mind. I'll happily spin a wrench for you anytime on one of those. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Vance<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a> via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Sent: Mon, Jan 5, 2015 4:25 pm<br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_f7bbc8a9-0cc3-4f81-944b-90a9f58e7ccb"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Excellent info Vance! Thank you so much. I was hopeing to locate one and maybe do a major overhaul / restoration on one rather than try to build a 1000m boat from scratch. Any more pointers would be awesome. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Scott Waters<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#575757'>Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: via Personal_Submersibles <br>Date:01/05/2015 3:02 PM (GMT-06:00) <br>To: <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> <br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces <br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P-I<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>Scrapped out by Vickers <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P-II<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>Rumored to be in a Miami storage unit (unconfirmed)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P-III ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P-IV In Hawaii and in service (but stony broke, I hear)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P-V<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>Ditto<br>P-VI<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>IUC warehouse in New York, maybe parted out<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P-VII In a Russian museum (Sevastopol, I think)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P-VIII Nuytco<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P-IX<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>Design study for Intersub (4K meters, never built)<br>P-X<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>Nuytco<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>P-X11 Same as VII (flanking the front doors, last I saw)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Plus Leo, which was a big-window Pisces style rated to 2000' which, along with P-VI and Aquarius, are the only Hyco boats that I qualified on and operated (although the P-VI experience was not a good one for me or the owners, either one). I did participate in a Pisces V overhaul in Houston, but I'm not sure that counts except for the busted knuckles.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I think the boys at Silvercrest might have one of the question marks, but I'm not sure. Assuming they do, that leaves one unaccounted for. I'm betting Mr. Dr. Prof. Nuytten would know. As a side note, if you look at the Mirs, you will see where they sprang from. They are Pisces boats on steroids. Those people worked at IUC for a couple of years and operated P-VII and P-XII for years after that, then took all those dandy ideas, added a pile of rubles, and built a couple of big brawny kissing cousins. Mir 1 & Mir 2, by name. The Pisces subs were pretty good for the day, but maintenance heavy. And rest assured, you haven't really lived until you have pulled a Pisces battery box at sea to change one cell. What a job!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Vance<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Sent: Mon, Jan 5, 2015 3:02 pm<br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_33a7bf39-6ccb-4af5-90c8-4fa701defad7"><div><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2967"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Scott,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2965"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hawaii undersea research lab on Oahu has two subs.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2963"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>One I know is a Pisces & I believe the other is also.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2962"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I think David Columbo has seen them in the last year,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2973"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>he might confirm.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2973"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>They told me they were losing funding for operating them<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2973"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>as Govt considered rovs were better value for money.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2973"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2669"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2668"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2667"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> "<a href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a> via Personal_Submersibles" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br><b>To:</b> psubs <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 6, 2015 7:27 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3138"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv7052812730><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3644"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3643"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Does anyone know what happened to all the Pisces submarines? I believe there was 10 built, but only one or two that are still in operation. I think NOAA has one.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3645"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3646"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3647"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Scott Waters<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3648"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3649"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3651"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3650"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#575757'>Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_33a7bf39-6ccb-4af5-90c8-4fa701defad7"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></div></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_f7bbc8a9-0cc3-4f81-944b-90a9f58e7ccb"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Personal_Submersibles mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 10968 (20150105) __________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><a href="http://www.eset.com">http://www.eset.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div> <BR><BR>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 10968 (20150105) __________<BR><BR>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<BR><BR><A HREF="http://www.eset.com">http://www.eset.com</A><BR> </body></html>