<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>Ok. Thanks Vance. I will see what turns up.</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone</div></div><div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br>Date:01/05/2015 6:34 PM (GMT-06:00) <br>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces <br><br><font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="3">International Underwater Contractors. When Andre Galern was alive, it was one of THE deep diving construction companies in the world. No idea what's happened up there in the last few years. Best to ask Dr. Phil that one, too. He knew/knows all those guys.</font>
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<div>Forgive me, but what is IUC in New York? I should probably know this. Haha. I figure it's worth at least trying.</div>
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<font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="3">Anything is possible, Scott. SIlvercrest will skin you alive, given half an opportunity. Or at least they'll try. You have to be willing to wrangle with them. I don't think they'll respect anyone who doesn't. Maybe Phil has an extra one laying around. I've never asked. You could do a lot worse, if the hulls are salvageable. There are four pressure vessels (except on Leo). The personnel sphere, an aft floatation sphere, and the two 32" forward VBTs (that's what is under the fiberglas brow that makes the P boats so distinctive. And the boats weigh from ten to twelve tons, depending. Just in case you want to check your air-ride flatbeds for load capability. The P-VI was the most perfect hull Hyco ever did--it was fabricated in Jacques Piccard's shop in Switzerland under contract, and was lap finished, as I understand it--both inside and out. Lovely thing, P-VI. I remember her well. Maybe it could be had, if IUC hasn't rolled it out into a dumpster. That might be another question for our Dr. Phil, as I have zero contacts up that way anymore. Keep me in mind. I'll happily spin a wrench for you anytime on one of those.</font>
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<div>Excellent info Vance! Thank you so much. I was hopeing to locate one and maybe do a major overhaul / restoration on one rather than try to build a 1000m boat from scratch. Any more pointers would be awesome. </div>
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<font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="3" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">P-I<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Scrapped out by Vickers</font>
<div style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font size="3">P-II<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Rumored to be in a Miami storage unit (unconfirmed)</font></div>
<div style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font size="3">P-III ?</font></div>
<div style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font size="3">P-IV In Hawaii and in service (but stony broke, I hear)</font></div>
<div style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font size="3">P-V<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Ditto<br>
P-VI<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>IUC warehouse in New York, maybe parted out</font></div>
<div style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font size="3">P-VII In a Russian museum (Sevastopol, I think)</font></div>
<div style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><font size="3">P-VIII Nuytco</font></div>
<div><font size="3"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">P-IX</font><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; white-space: pre;"> </span><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Design study for Intersub (4K meters, never built)</font><br>
P-X<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Nuytco</font></div>
<div><font size="3">P-X11 Same as VII (flanking the front doors, last I saw)</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Plus Leo, which was a big-window Pisces style rated to 2000' which, along with P-VI and Aquarius, are the only Hyco boats that I qualified on and operated (although the P-VI experience was not a good one for me or the owners, either one). I did participate in a Pisces V overhaul in Houston, but I'm not sure that counts except for the busted knuckles.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">I think the boys at Silvercrest might have one of the question marks, but I'm not sure. Assuming they do, that leaves one unaccounted for. I'm betting Mr. Dr. Prof. Nuytten would know. As a side note, if you look at the Mirs, you will see where they sprang from. They are Pisces boats on steroids. Those people worked at IUC for a couple of years and operated P-VII and P-XII for years after that, then took all those dandy ideas, added a pile of rubles, and built a couple of big brawny kissing cousins. Mir 1 & Mir 2, by name. The Pisces subs were pretty good for the day, but maintenance heavy. And rest assured, you haven't really lived until you have pulled a Pisces battery box at sea to change one cell. What a job!!!</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2965"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2966">Hawaii undersea research lab on Oahu has two subs.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2963"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2964">One I know is a Pisces & I believe the other is also.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2962"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2961">I think David Columbo has seen them in the last year,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2973"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3642">he might confirm.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2973">They told me they were losing funding for operating them</div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_2973">as Govt considered rovs were better value for money.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3643">Does anyone know what happened to all the Pisces submarines? I believe there was 10 built, but only one or two that are still in operation. I think NOAA has one.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1420487607684_3646">Thanks,</div>
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