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size=2>Brian, <BR><BR>we have each two cardridge
in the exchange filters for the mask.<BR></font>One is unse in case of
fire
against smoke or in case of battery clorine or other gases.<BR>And the
other
cardridge we customize to absorb CO2 in case main LSS filter didnt work
anymore.<BR>They are military surplus from Finland and came brandnew for
just
some bucks. <BR><BR>During building I have a fire in a bed madraze
becuase of
weölding close by. <BR>The smoke fill the compartmnet in seconds with no
view
anymore and nearly unbreathable atmosphere. <BR><BR>But we have also a
scuba
automat lifeline system on 6 station on board in case of fire or out of
oxygen
situation. <BR>And mobile fire extingusher and a high fog mist fire
fighting
system in each compartment. <BR><BR>Also Steinke Hoods, diver suits,
diver scuba
equipment, 1 liferaft, 1 inflate rubber boat,<BR>3x 1ts drop weights,
Emergency
oxygen bottles for weeks, emergency CO2 filters (we double it - 4 in
total)
<BR>Last but not least a first aid set from a car. And most inportant a
complet
workshop in the engine room. <BR>The diver exist room can be use as
rescue
chamber wit a mirror of all systems for air, oxygen, filters on its own.
<BR><BR>On the future plan are a complete set from a Ambulance car
including defilibrator, oxygen inhalator, medicine etc. <BR>We get older
and on
real offshore operation we are maybe far awawy from other ships and
pepole and
have to fix our problems ourself.. <BR><BR>I have a book abouit
emergency
situations on civil submarine from russia. <BR>There major accident
clear to
identfy: <BR>- Fire on board, <BR>- boat catch on the bottom <BR>-
diving
with open hatch or launching accident. <BR><BR>Deep charges or
torpedos seems not an issue for privat submarines - so we not have
equipment to
prevent that.. <BR><FONT size=2>(I write this line so I can be sure that
this
email will be stored in a mountain in Montana for ever..)</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT
size=2>There are many old submariners and there are many brave
submariners.
<BR>But there are not so much old and brave submariners.. <BR>(Okay I
steal this
from the pilots..)</FONT> <BR><BR>vbr Carsten
<BR>
<BR>"Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles"
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><DIV>Carsten, What to you use the gas masks
for?</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Brian<BR><BR>---
personal_submersibles@psubs.org wrote:<BR><BR>From: "Carsten Standfuß"
via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>To:
"Personal Submersibles General Discussion"
<personal_submersibles@psubs.org><BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
model testing<BR>Date: 30 Dec 2014 19:08 GMT<BR><BR><FONT face="Courier
New" size="2">If the
scale factor is 1:1 it shall
work.. :-0<BR></FONT><BR> vbr Carsten<BR><BR>"hank pronk via
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schrieb:<BR>> <BR>> I am not looking for drag comparisons, I am
looking for failure due to pressure comparisons. I though I read that
the Nekton subs were built as a model first to establish crush
depth.<BR>> Hank
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On Mon, 12/29/14, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <<A
href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>> <BR>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] model
testing<BR>> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<A
href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>><BR>>
Received: Monday, December 29, 2014, 3:06 PM<BR>> <BR>>
Drag<BR>> results between a model and full scale does not
scale<BR>> geometrically. You have to scale model and full
scale off<BR>> the dimensionless Reynolds number.
Reynolds number<BR>> scaling enables you to scale results between
model and full<BR>> scale using either a water tunnel or
air<BR>>
tunnel.<BR>> Cliff<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
From: Alan James via<BR>> Personal_Submersibles<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>><BR>>
<BR>> To: Personal<BR>> Submersibles General
Discussion<BR>>
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<BR>> <BR>> Sent: Monday,<BR>> December 29, 2014 1:55
PM<BR>> Subject: Re:<BR>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] model
testing<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Hank,I just ran<BR>> a test on my pressure
program & you get the same crush<BR>> depthon a<BR>> sphere
of A516-70 steel that is 1000mm diameter & 10mm<BR>> thick as
youdo on a<BR>> sphere 100mm diameter & 1mm thick.What I
am<BR>> not sure of is if you can scale up the drag results on
a<BR>> model.If you<BR>> have a scale model that is 1/50th
&
it takes X amount of<BR>> force to push<BR>> it at
3<BR>> knots, can you multiply X by 50 to get the required<BR>>
thrust?Alan<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Brian
Cox via<BR>> Personal_Submersibles<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>><BR>>
<BR>> To: Personal<BR>> Submersibles General
Discussion<BR>>
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<BR>> <BR>> Sent: Tuesday,<BR>> December 30, 2014 8:43
AM<BR>> Subject: Re:<BR>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] model
testing<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Hank,<BR>> I would
say<BR>> no. It would have to be so exact that it would
be<BR>> virtually impossible to extrapolate from the small
model,<BR>> and<BR>> aside from that I think there are other
engineering<BR>> principles involved that would come into play ,
Sean would<BR>> be the person to ask ! I know that it is
done
in wave<BR>> tanks and wind tunnels, but in those you are looking
at<BR>> laminar flow and such things, not structural strength
so<BR>> much. You might be able to get a rough idea of how
it<BR>> would start to collapse maybe. The larger the model
the<BR>> better I would think.<BR>> <BR>> Brian<BR>>
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wrote:<BR>> <BR>> From: hank pronk via<BR>>
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To: <A
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Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] model testing<BR>> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014
10:52:46 -<A>0800</A><BR>> <BR>> Hi
all<BR>> If you<BR>> make a scale model of a submarine in
complete detail. <BR>> Scale the size and metal thickness, is
it a reasonable<BR>> representation of depth capabilities when
pressure<BR>> tested?<BR>> Hank<BR>>
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