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Or just see what it would cost to purchase a used barge of
adequate size. Military surplus might be feasible.<br>
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On 9/5/2014 4:57 PM, Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br>
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<div>From a practical point of view, if we did build a PSub
Launch barge, it would have to be fairly simple and follow the
KISS principle to get it of the drawing board and built by a
committee. I for one don't have the time to design a self
powered ship. I am thinking a larger version of a typical
pontoon boat that could be towed by the Boston Whaler. We
would need someone like Jon to be able to set up something
like a dropbox account that anyone could populate with files,
drawing, sketches, CAD files etc. We would have to
collectively establish the overall capability of the barge (
how many psubs, maximum weight of psubs, wench/davit system
for launch and retrieval, auxiliary systems such as lights).
Someone that has a 3-D cad program like Inventor or Solidworks
would have to agree to take sketches and ideas folks come up
with and build out 3-D model that we could collectively
critique and make suggested changes to. Someone would need to
do the basic stability calcs with loaded or partially loaded
deck. Some one would need to do some research on launch and
retrieval systems, such as davits or winches and bring
forward a couple of recommendations. Someone that is a welder
(like Dan Lance) would need to review the construction drawing
to make sure welding plan is workable. Someone would have to
figure out where you would store the barge when not in use.
Some one would need to figure out a coating plan for the
barge. Someone would have to take on looking at what
regulations we would need to meet to use this in the Florida
Keys. Someone would have to do a material takeoff off
construction drawings and figure out the cost to build and
establish a budget. If we did build a psub barge, we would
need to pole the group and see how many would be willing to
split the cost to fabricate based on the estimated cost. We
would need someone to agree to fabricate the weldments and
assembly. We would need to figure out where to build it and
what it would cost to transport it the Keys. We would have to
figure out how to register such a barge. Would Psubs own the
barge or would it make since for Doug to own? Are there any
legal liabilities of having such a barge and if so who would
be liable? We would need someone that is not currently
building a psub to agree to be the Barge Bulldog!</div>
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<div>Or if someone would agree to do all the above, maybe we
just pass the hat and let them do it.</div>
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<div>What a rig Brian, and a decomp chamber to
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I like the idea of a group-designed and group-built
support ship, my only concern being the logistics of
coordinating a project of that magnitude. I'm sure
it could be done well given the proper leadership
and organization though, especially considering the
diverse skillset we would share as a team from
designing to fabrication. And I don't think anyone
would complain about the benefits of a support
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<div>Thanks for your go-between work Steve. I must
admit I was rather unaware of the ISR event until
"snooping" through some of Alec's videos. I'm
quite intrigued and may well attend this coming
year's event regardless of what is decided as a
group. Is attendance open to the general public? ~
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<div>The initial feedback from the
International Submarine Races (ISR)
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<div>Hey guys,</div>
<div>Wanted to give everyone a
update on the next psubs
convention. At this years
conference in Vancouver /
Washington we had a discussion
of where everyone wanted to go.
The following is in order what
we came up with</div>
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<div>First choice) Woods Hole,
Massachusetts (See Alvin and
Deep sea challenger)</div>
<div>Scond choice) Manned power
submarine races (Our biggest
potential for new members)</div>
<div>Third choice) Florida Keys
(Dive on the USS Vandenburg)</div>
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<div>Dan Lance and Steve McQueen
are helping to figure out if the
first two choices would work.
More info about next years
conference will come out soon.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Scott Waters</div>
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