<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div id="yiv7311532409"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_17" style="">Hi David,</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" style="">not sure if you got my last email as this is replying to my previous one. Strange things</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" style="">have been happening lately with my emails.</span></div><div
class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" style="">Yes you can poke the cable through the blueglobe cable gland, connect the wires,</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" style="">screw the blueglobe into it's fitting, then tighten the blueglobe around the cable.</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" style="">I have a heap of them, but they are the M16. I think we might have to go with the M32</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" style="">rather than M20, to have a chance of pushing the wires as well as the connector through </span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span
class="yiv7311532409" style="">the fittings opening, </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;">before screwing in the blueglobe, if you follow. There is the option to</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;">buy them with an adapter.</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="">I think Jon is <span id="misspell-4" class=""><span>verifying</span></span> whether there is a 2 terminal 50 amp SubConn <span id="misspell-6" class=""><span>connector</span></span>. A 2 wire version</div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="">would enable the wires + <span style="font-size: 10pt;">joiner to fit through easier, however I like the 4 wire version as you can </span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span style="font-size:
10pt;">use the other 2 wires </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;">for your thruster temperature monitoring.</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style=""><span style="background-color: transparent;">we might be best to run the connector issues past Ken Martindale. He specializes in</span><br></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_24" style="">power electronics & has helped me in the past. If he's not listening in I could email him</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica
Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_28" style="">before we go out & buy.</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_32" style="">I had a look in an electrics store today & couldn't find a spade connector that could take 50 amps.</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span
class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_40" style="">I had that problem with my last sub. Nothing is simple.</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_36" style="">There are these gold plated high current cable joiners.</span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="background-color:transparent;"><span class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_44" style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_4784" target="_blank" href="http://www.jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=HC4064"
style="">http://www.jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=HC4064</a><br clear="none" style=""></span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">They would probably have a lower profile than a spade connector of the same amp rating.</div><div class="yiv7311532409 yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_8461" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">They are about an inch long so you would need around 6 inches of shaft to fit them in if you connected 4</div><div class="yiv7311532409 yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_8461"
id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">wires & had them staggered. </div><div class="yiv7311532409 yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_8461" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Alternatively you can slice & solder the wires together, but don't have the same convenience in swapping thrusters.</div><div class="yiv7311532409 yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_8461" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal;
background-color: transparent;">Trying to think all this through as I have $1000- worth of SubConn connectors that have been sitting in a box</div><div class="yiv7311532409 yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_8461" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">for the last 3 years<img src="https://s.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo2.gif" alt="*:( sad" title="*:( sad" style="font-size: 10pt;"></div><div class="yiv7311532409 yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_8461" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Will see what Cliff makes of all of this. He is hanging out with Kangaroos
somewhere in the Aussie outback </div><div class="yiv7311532409 yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_8461" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">at the moment.</div><div class="yiv7311532409 yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_8461" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Alan</div><div class="yiv7311532409 yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_8461" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_4" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color:
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clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_6" style=""></div> <div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_6_1406881167027_9" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3212" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv7311532409yqt2213219385" id="yiv7311532409yqt24716"><div class="yiv7311532409" dir="ltr" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3211" style=""> <hr class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3210" size="1" style=""> <font class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3213" size="2" face="Arial" style=""> <b class="yiv7311532409"
id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3550" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3549" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""> <b class="yiv7311532409" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""> <b class="yiv7311532409" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 1, 2014 7:52 PM<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""> <b class="yiv7311532409" style=""><span class="yiv7311532409" style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] MK-101 Connectors<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""> </font> </div> <div class="yiv7311532409"
id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3227" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3533" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" dir="ltr" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3534" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3535" style="">Hi Alan,<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""></div>With the blue globe male fitting into the top of the shaft, there would be no twisting of wires based upon one of there videos I watched on how to install., I Thought that I could use a flat blade connector and sleeve receiver from the subconn, to mate to the MK wires and I would not have to push the wires much into the shaft. Its amazing that this information takes so much energy to work out the design, You'd think subconn, has come across this question before
since its what they do.<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""></div><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3532" style=""><br clear="all" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3531" style="">Best Regards,<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">David Colombo<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><img class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yui_3_16_0_1_1406881167027_3530" src="https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/384615_253448681433508_1443740147_n.jpg" height="147" width="200" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">804 College Ave<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">(707) 536-1424<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7311532409" target="_blank" href="http://www.seaquestor.com/" style="">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""></div>
<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <span class="yiv7311532409" dir="ltr" style=""><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7311532409" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
<blockquote class="yiv7311532409" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv7311532409" id="yiv7311532409yqt99274" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
<div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">David,</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">I am a few emails behind here, but that is exactly the solution I was thinking of.</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">One problem I envisaged with the short shaft section that comes out of the motor,</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">is how do you attach the wires. Connections can get pretty bulky especially after</div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">insulating them. You can't stuff excess wire down in to the motor. Also you would</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">have to have room to twist the wires in the opposite direction to that of the connector </div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">prior to screwing in the connector. I am not sure if it is easy to pull the motor apart & </div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">attach <span class="yiv7311532409" style="font-size:10pt;">the wires from a connector straight to the motor. </span></div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">The blue globe cable gland have an adaptor that you can
screw the blue globes</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">in to. If you used an adaptor you would create more room for pulling the wire</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">connections through.</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">If as I had suggested earlier, we had taylor made connectors with fittings on both</div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">ends, it could be problematic with large holes being bored through exostructure</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">to get from hull to motor. I am thinking of situations like the R300 where the cable</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">may need to penetrate a ballast tank.</div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">Alan</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""></div><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""></div><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""></div></div><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">On 30/07/2014, at 8:42 am, David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7311532409" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank"
href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""></div><blockquote class="yiv7311532409" type="cite" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" dir="ltr" style="">Hi Jon, I am having a short shaft machined to screw into the Mk treads, with a hollow bore, and a series of side taps that will be be used for temp sensors, and for compensating (oil or air not chosen yet). The mk wires will be attached to the end of the outlet side of the subcon connector and threaded thru a blueglobe seal. creating a pig tail assembly. I am not using the Mk shaft as the attachment point for the thrusters as I have a kort nozzle assembly for attachment to the sub body. Designed for ease of removal and bench inspection and optional compensation after future testing with the sensors on heat build up.<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
</div><div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="all" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">Best Regards,<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">David Colombo<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><img class="yiv7311532409" width="200" height="147" src="https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/384615_253448681433508_1443740147_n.jpg" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
804 College Ave<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7311532409" style="" href="">(707) 536-1424</a><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7311532409" target="_blank" href="http://www.seaquestor.com/" style="">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
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<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style=""><div class="yiv7311532409" style="">On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <span class="yiv7311532409" dir="ltr" style=""><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7311532409" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" style="">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
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How will the penetrator connect to the MK housing? Do you mean
having subconn manufacture that end of the cable with threads to
match the MK stub?<div class="yiv7311532409" style=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
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On 7/29/2014 11:49 AM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv7311532409" style="">
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<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">More connector thoughts.</div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">Would we be better off having penetrators rather than
connectors?</div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">I believe they taylor make these connectors / penetrators, so
why not have a</div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">penetrator for the through hull & a penetrator on the
other end of the cable for </div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">fitting straight on to the thruster. Perhaps a combination of
penetrator &</div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">connector to get through any exostructure that might be in
the way.</div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">I am not hot on this subject, just learning.</div>
<div class="yiv7311532409" style="">Alan</div>
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