<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Carsten,</div><div>some great subs & boats there in your archives.</div><div>It amazes me how innovative people have been. Everything seems to have been tried.</div><div>You could probably do that with Sgt. Peppers but Euronaut might be a bit more trouble.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "Carsten Standfuß " via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 25, 2014 5:29 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] trackdrive<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4706197130"><title>E-Mail Software 6.0</title><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://articles.maritimepropulsion.com/article/Iguana-29-Amphibian-4393.aspx">http://articles.maritimepropulsion.com/article/Iguana-29-Amphibian-4393.aspx</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.besportier.com/archives/iguana-amphibious-yacht-with-caterpillar-tracks.html">http://www.besportier.com/archives/iguana-amphibious-yacht-with-caterpillar-tracks.html</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank"
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<br clear="none">"Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles"
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<div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span></span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>Hank,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>You
have hit my key issues with tracks integrated into boat. I will
add one more. You are adding a lot of weight/cost/complexity for
some thing that is used only on launch and
retrieval.</div><div><br clear="none">Maybe I should use the big DC traction motor I
am taking out of the <br clear="none">R300 as well as the motor controller and old
joystick and build a submersible powered tracked launch and
retrieval sled. Support diver drives the sled with the
R500, pilot onboard, off a flatbed trailer on to the beach, and out far
enough to lift the R500 off the sled. Reverse process on
retrieval. Could use it to launch off both beach sand and
conventional ramp. Add enough batteries to
make the sled negatively buoyant when the R500 lifts off the
sled.</div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Could work.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>Cliff</div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="yiv4706197130hr" style="FONT-SIZE:0px;BORDER-TOP:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;HEIGHT:0px;BORDER-RIGHT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;BORDER-BOTTOM:rgb(204,204,204) 1px
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General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51
AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
[PSUBS-MAILIST] trackdrive<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4706197130y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv4706197130"><div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div>Alan,</div><div>The fellow that helps me test and dive my subs
is a huge fan of tracks on a sub. We debate this for hrs after a
big struggle at a lake trying to launch.
This idea would be the ultimate system. The problem is, if it
were electric, the power consumption would be huge and put a big drain
on your batteries. I figured the only way to do it would be with a
gas motor hyd power pack. Hook up the quick connectors to launch,
then disconnect. The next problem is, tracks, even rubber, are
very heavy. The setup could weigh 1,000 lb easily if it is carrying a
sub. Then there is the cost, think big!
:-) It would be the ultimate
though!</div><div>Hank</div></div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles
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