<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi James,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Right I remember you asking about that now. The problem with jacking up the front of the trailer is, if you disconnect from the tow vehicle, you got no way to hold her back properly. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>My idea with the tilting C channel is to make the channels like a tilting deck. The sub rolls back a bit and the balance point lets the C channels tip creating a
tilting deck so to speak. Your ramps can extend from the C channels creating a long smooth ramp. You would need a way to hold the tilting C channels from dropping out of control when the sub is completely off the trailer. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>You can possibly hinge the C channels right behind the rear axel cross member thus making it very clean and compact.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>This can all be accomplished the same way that a gravity tilt deck trailer works. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica,
Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:48:09 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4521484352"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Hank,</div><div> </div><div>I was aware of the tilting issue. The plan is to have reasonably long ramps to minimise the tilt and also jack up the front of the trailer to meet the angle. That was why I was
asking about hydraulic rams etc a week or so ago. In the end I think you suggested just jockey wheels which is what im going to go for. Well, that the idea but is always open to suggestions. Can you clarify your c channel tilting idea? </div>
<div>Im not sure what you mean. Might be better? </div><div>ps: The ramps are going to be c channel anyway to stop the boat sliding off sideways.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div></div><div class="yiv4521484352gmail_extra"><br clear="none">
<br clear="none"><div class="yiv4521484352gmail_quote">On 22 July 2014 13:08, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv4521484352gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div class="yiv4521484352yqt0579776432" id="yiv4521484352yqt79550"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
<div><span>Hi James,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>I am worried about your set up with the rollers. If I understand it, you will have a horizontal trailer deck with ramps on an angle to the ground. With that many rollers it will be dangerous to transition from the horizontal deck to the angled ramps. When the sub rolls back, eventually it will be at the balance point and tilt to match the ramp angle. At the point the sub will be on only two rollers. If the two rollers happen to be at the transition point where the deck meets the ramps, the sub will turn violently and I mean violently.
It could be dangerous. There are a few solutions, you can make a tilting track with C channel that tilts with the sub so all the wheels are in contact all the time. Another solution is to use only four wheels, or best of all a tilt deck trailer. I went with four large wheels on my cart for these reasons. With four wheels the sub is never at a tipping point. </span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:34:36 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
</font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Hank,</div><div><br clear="none">Yes, the idea is to make ramps that the sub can be winched down off the trailer. </div><div>Regards<br clear="none">James</div>
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On 22 July 2014 02:48, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div>James,</div><div>Love the rollers, they look real good. Are you going to have a tilting track that the rollers run in? </div>
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