<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>James,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>If you can get hold of a tandem boat trailer and rig ramps with your roller wheels, you will sure have a slick set up.  The boat trailer is likely the lowest trailer you will find and already has bearing buddies.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Hank</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue,
 Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, June 27, 2014 8:24:16 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9679340076"><div>that would do it!  My new 20 wheeled skids aren't far off actually!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div class="yiv9679340076yqt3201411739" id="yiv9679340076yqtfd21919"><div class="yiv9679340076gmail_quote">On 27 June 2014 12:10, Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">

<blockquote class="yiv9679340076gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">Here's your solution!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Marc 
<div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 6/27/2014 7:05 PM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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<div>Floats isnt a bad idea either.  My problem is that my trailer is too<br clear="none">tall, meaning ive got to push it really deep into the water to get the<br clear="none">sub off.  Still not sure what im doing with it.  I'll finish my skid<br clear="none">
wheels this weekend and see how they work out.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 27 June 2014 02:58, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"><<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<u></u>org</a><br clear="none">
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<div><mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@<u></u>psubs.org</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">    James,<br clear="none">    There is not one perfect solution because we all have different<br clear="none">
    needs.  I would love to have wheels on my sub but the ramps are not<br clear="none">    concrete all the way here.  The disposable trailer is perfect if you<br clear="none">    have the depth.<br clear="none">    I am actually considering putting ballast tanks on my cart.  So I<br clear="none">
    winch the cart with sub into the lake and they both float to the<br clear="none">    dock.  Let air out of the cart ballast tanks and float sub out of<br clear="none">    cart while cart is tied up to dock.  In the mean time my helper is<br clear="none">    parking the truck.<br clear="none">
    Hank<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">    On Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:29:31 PM, Pete Niedermayr via<br clear="none">    Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<u></u>org</a><br clear="none">
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<div>    <mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@<u></u>psubs.org</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">    What about somekind of liftbag cradle thing?<br clear="none">    ------------------------------<u></u>--------------<br clear="none">
    On Thu, 6/26/14, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">    <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<u></u>org</a><br clear="none"></div>
<div>    <mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@<u></u>psubs.org</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">    Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] launch system<br clear="none">    To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"<br clear="none">
    <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<u></u>org</a><br clear="none"></div>    <mailto:<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@<u></u>psubs.org</a>>> 
<div><br clear="none">    Date: Thursday, June 26, 2014, 6:52 AM<br clear="none"><br clear="none">    Hi Hank,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">    Thanks for that.  Ive been looking at ramps all<br clear="none">    week.  Ive made wheels for the replacement skids and also<br clear="none">    got some more wheels for a cart.  Will need ramps, legs and<br clear="none">
    a new winch.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">    But im thinking i might be over complicating things.<br clear="none">    Ive also made a long 4m pole extention for the trailer and<br clear="none">    im tempted to just dump the trailer in the water for<br clear="none">    launching and consider it disposable.  Buy a new one when<br clear="none">
    it rots away.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">    regards<br clear="none">    James<br clear="none"><br clear="none">    On 26 June 2014 13:44,<br clear="none">    hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none">    <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.<u></u>org</a><br clear="none">
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<div><br clear="none">    wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">    James,<br clear="none">    I thought I would give you some info on ramps.  I<br clear="none">    started with 4 foot long ramps and they were to short.  I<br clear="none">    switched to 7 foot long ramps and that is perfect.  I have<br clear="none">
    2 inches clearance under my cart frame and the trailer deck<br clear="none">    is 18 inches high.  Also, I am sue you know already, but<br clear="none">    support legs at the back of the trailer are a must.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">    Hank<br clear="none">    ______________________________<u></u>_________________<br clear="none">
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