<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Thanks Vance,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>it was manipulator, periscope & camera mount, all in one but lightweight.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>I imagine I'll be doing a bit of diving on my own, hence the need for some sort of</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande',
sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>periscope. Another option could be just releasing a Buoy & coming up under it.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>I've also been looking at the option of a fly-out rov. I could send it up for a look around</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>first. Could also send it in caves to look for crayfish with a big gripper attached.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;
font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">Alan</span><br></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> personal_submersibles@psubs.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 5, 2014 11:55 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator Arm<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6906612164"><div><font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica,
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</font><div><font class="yiv6906612164Apple-style-span" size="3">I'm not sure how useful a TV periscope would be, especially when considering the weight and complexity of something you don't use very much. Besides that, light weight, in my experience, means one of two things at sea: bent or broken. As for the camera boom idea, I've seen a bunch of fine film made from a small camera piggy-backed right onto a manipulator. It saves you the need for a pan and tilt unit, can be stowed out of the way, and tells no lies about what you are trying to filch off the bottom. Operating subs without surface support is inviting trouble. They are your collision avoidance. Even in poor viz, you stop a few feet underwater and release an air bubble from the MBTs for them to locate you. We did that even with the most sophisticated tracking, just for visual confirmation.</font></div>
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<div><span>Thanks Vance.</span></div>
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<div>It is nice to have, but you can always add rotation later.</div>
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<div><br clear="none">On Jun 4, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
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<div class="yiv6906612164" style="">Most small rovs don't.</div>
<div class="yiv6906612164" style=""><span class="yiv6906612164" style="font-size:10pt;">On a lightweight manipulator i</span>t would save a bit of mucking about in the build, </div>
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