<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thanks Hank,</div><div>I have been Looking for "off the shelf" solutions, but just finding the right</div><div>nomenclature for Googling was difficult. I think I'm after a 2 passage hollow bore</div><div>rotary union that can be used in salt water.</div><div>I'll try Googling "Fancy Foo Foo valves" & "Bindle Dorpers" instead. :)</div><div>Alan<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 2/06/2014, at 12:46 am, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>It is my observation in my own life of building subs and other things.  The more complicated the project, the less likely it will see the light of day.  I say forget about rotating grippers and fancy foo foo valves and bindledorpers.  Build it to work and go have fun.  Obviously a rotating gripper is better but we are not operating DW's under oil platforms.  Your wrist solution is perfect!   Rotating wrists can be added at any time, as a matter of act, there is a hydraulic rotator on ebay right now for 149 bucks.  A hydraulic rotator
 is the part Sean described.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Hank </span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:04:57 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4785195138"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,
 sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Thanks Hank,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>I am not sure how detrimental it would be reducing your self to 90 degrees of rotation.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Vance might be able to answer that.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Alan</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial,
 "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div>  <div class="yiv4785195138yqt4738189896" id="yiv4785195138yqt39016"><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div>  <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General
 Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:27 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4785195138y_msg_container"><br clear="none">Alan,<br clear="none">I would say that has merit, it is real simple and low cost. <br clear="none">Hank<br clear="none">--------------------------------------------<br clear="none">On Fri, 5/30/14, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm<br clear="none"> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"> Received: Friday, May 30, 2014, 10:21 PM<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> All,would<br clear="none"> this idea for
 rotating the gripper have merit. (See<br clear="none"> attachment.)It<br clear="none"> is simple & can give 90 degrees + of rotation. (would<br clear="none"> you need more?)The<br clear="none"> piston pulls a bolt in a rod down an angled slot in a pipe,<br clear="none"> turning the rod & gripper.Ignore<br clear="none"> the gripper on the end, it's just for show &<br clear="none"> doesn't have a closing mechanism.Alan<br clear="none">       <br clear="none">  From: swaters via<br clear="none"> Personal_Submersibles<br clear="none"> <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none">  To:<br clear="none"> <a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a> <br clear="none">  Sent: Friday,<br clear="none"> May 30, 2014 12:36 PM<br clear="none">  Subject:<br clear="none"> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator arm<br clear="none">    <br clear="none"> Hank,That would be great. So on a four<br clear="none"> function would you have eight penetrations or four<br clear="none"> penetrations? My goal is to make a good and not to expensive<br clear="none"> (under $2000) manipulator arm for psub members.<br clear="none"> My address is:Scott<br clear="none"> Waters3213 Arnold AveBldg<br clear="none">  122Salina, KS 67401<br clear="none"> Thank you,Scott<br clear="none"> Waters<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> Sent<br clear="none"> from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone <br clear="none"> _______________________________________________<br clear="none"> Personal_Submersibles mailing
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