<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Hank,</div><div>Just wondering, what is the depth rating of Gamma? How many people does it hold?</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</div></div> <br>hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br>Scott,<br>I should also be able to follow with Gamma to 500 if that is what your shooting for. I will have the barge out there permanently this summer. I am working out there a lot now so I am making contacts. I brought Gamma across the border with no trouble. Canada is much easier on us than the US. If you like you can go cross country to Montana then cross at Eureka. I was there yesterday to pick up my AGM's and the Canada border guy said 'hey your the submarine guy" lol I can meet you there and we can head to Slocan from there. If you have any trouble at the border, I will be there to help. You really just need proof it is your sub. You can pick Vance up on the way, :-) You can head to Nuyco from there and see the all the wonderful DW's Maybe you can sell a store and go home with a DW, :-)<br>Canada is a very safe place to travel with your trailer, we are not as anal. Just cover the sub with a good tarp and your set. <br>I would be available any time in August. I am booked for work after that. <br>Hank<br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Sat, 5/24/14, swaters via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br><br> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Depth Test<br> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> Received: Saturday, May 24, 2014, 12:47 PM<br> <br> Hank,Is<br> there any special regulations if I were to tow my sub across<br> the border? I am going to try to figure out how to make this<br> work. I would feel alot more comfortable putting the sub on<br> a winch off a barge to depth<br> test.Thanks,Scott Waters<br> <br> <br> <br> Sent<br> from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone <br> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> <br> Scott,<br> I live in Windermere BC, 5hr from Slocan lake. Google<br> Slocan lake BC and you can see the awsome lake and it is<br> crystal clear. <br> Hank -------------------------------------------<br> On Sat, 5/24/14, swaters via Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> <br> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Depth Test<br> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> Received: Saturday, May 24, 2014, 12:24 PM<br> <br> Hank,That<br> is an extremely generious offer! Thanks you. Where do you<br> live in Canada?Thanks,Scott<br> Waters<br> <br> <br> <br> Sent<br> from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone <br> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> <br> Scott,<br> You would be well advised to drive how ever far it takes<br> to<br> have ideal conditions. I have lots of experience doing<br> these<br> deep tests and have returned home empty handed. <br> Believe me, it can go bad in a hurry. Just bring it<br> up<br> to Canada, Slocan lake is 970 feet deep 500 yards off<br> shore. I will help you.<br> We can use my barge.<br> Hank--------------------------------------------<br> On Sat, 5/24/14, swaters via Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> <br> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Depth Test<br> To: "Personal Submersibles General<br> Discussion"<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> Received: Saturday, May 24, 2014, 10:09 AM<br> <br> Jim, I am<br> thinking maybe what I should do is bite the bullet<br> and<br> drive<br> to lake Seneca, NY. Being able to test right off the<br> boat<br> ramp is pretty desireable. The fastest I can tow is 4<br> mph,<br> but that is in calm circumstances. If it is wavy like<br> the<br> ocean, or great lakes can be, that would be very<br> rought<br> several hour tow. Unless someone has a working class<br> boat<br> with a crane they would loan me?<br> Hehe.Thanks,Scott Waters<br> <br> <br> <br> Sent<br> from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone <br> "kocpnt tds.net via Personal_Submersibles"<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br> Hi Scott,<br> Out of Kewaunee you can get 450 feet in about 11<br> miles!<br> Best Regards,<br> Jim K<br> <br> <br> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:40 PM, swaters via<br> Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> wrote:<br> <br> Yes. Thanks,Scott Waters<br> <br> <br> <br> Sent<br> from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone<br> <br> Pete Niedermayr via<br> Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> wrote:<br> <br> Scott, Do you rent backhoes<br> ?--------------------------------------------<br> <br> On Fri, 5/23/14, swaters via Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> wrote:<br> <br> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Depth Test<br> To: "Personal Submersibles General<br> Discussion"<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <br> Date: Friday, May 23, 2014, 1:12 PM<br> <br> Holy<br> cow! 21 miles of towing? Might have to find a plan<br> B.<br> Why<br> can't Kansas have a deep clear lake?<br> Haha-Scott Waters<br> <br> <br> <br> Sent from my U.S.<br> Cellular© Smartphone <br> <br> "kocpnt tds.net via<br> Personal_Submersibles"<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> wrote:<br> <br> Hi Scott,<br> I'm about 18 miles inland at<br> Manitowoc and can offer a place to stay as well as<br> a<br> well<br> equiped shop. I am planning to test mine soon also!<br> Just<br> had<br> it out last weekend for a bit. Manitowoc has an<br> exceptional<br> <br> ramp for launching etc. The bad news is that it is<br> about<br> 21<br> miles out to get to 450 feet of depth.<br> <br> Best Regards,<br> <br> Jim<br> K(920) 323-9200<br> <br> On Fri,<br> May 23, 2014 at 2:27 PM, kocpnt tds.net<br> <kocpnt@tds.net><br> <br> wrote:<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 2:15 PM, via<br> Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> wrote:<br> <br> <br> Thanks<br> Chris,<br> Looks like I would have to go to the upper lake to<br> avoid having to go out to the center. I might be<br> better<br> going Fremont Lake, WY. That is a 12 hour drive for<br> me. I<br> think I would be a little more protected from the<br> <br> elements<br> <br> <br> <br> Thanks,<br> Scott Waters <br> <br> <br> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Depth Test<br> From: Christopher Graca via<br> Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <br> <br> <br> Date: Fri, May 23, 2014 11:05 am<br> To:<br> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <br> <br> <br> Scott, check out the bathymetry of the lake<br> to see where you can test it to 450'<br> <br> <br> <br> http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/mgg/image/michiganlarge.jpg<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> I'm in the Chicago area, but don't have any<br> contacts. I can help with support if needed.<br> <br> <br> -Chris<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Fri, May 23, 2014<br> at 12:45 PM, Steve McQueen via<br> Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <br> wrote:<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Scott, If you go to Lake Michigan let me<br> know. <br> I am<br> close enough I could be support or whatever. You<br> should<br> hear<br> back from others as we do have member in that area<br> who may<br> <br> have contacts/experience.<br> <br> Steve<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:54 PM, via<br> Personal_Submersibles<br> <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br> <br> wrote:<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> After doing some research, I think my best shot<br> for a depth test to 450' is lake Michigan. 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