<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Ugggg. E-commerece is such a pain in the ass for my business. Hahaha. </div><div>-Scott Waters</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</div></div> <br>Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div class="" style=""><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;" class="">Scott,</span></div><div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.333333969116211px; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;" class="">>>>> Iam going to figure out how I can make a Canada trip and visit you and write it off as a business expense :)</span><span class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><br></span></div><div class="" style=""> Buy some submarine parts off Phil & sell them at a loss to psubbers via an internet
sales arm of your</div><div class="" style="">business.</div><div class="" style="">Alan</div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=""> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <hr size="1" class="" style=""> <font size="2" face="Arial" class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;" class="">From:</span></b> swaters via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 16, 2014 11:06 AM<br class="" style=""> <b class="" style=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Commercial question<br class="" style=""> </font> </div> <div class="" style=""><br class="" style=""><div id="yiv5869665336" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style="">Phil,</div><div class="" style="">That really clears it up alot. I know business has been good for you based on how busy you have been. That is awesome. I know all of us business owners strive to remain relevant and it seems you have done well. I face the struggle every day in a shrinking market place due to the big box stores. We have seemed to carve out our niche and have really started to grow alot, but it is a deffenet fight tooth and nail. I buy alot of inventory from a company in Calgary and they have been wanting me to visit there factory for years. Iam going to figure out how I can make a Canada trip and visit you and write it off as a business expense
:)</div><div class="" style="">Thank you,</div><div class="" style="">Scott Waters</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757;" class="">Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</div></div> <br clear="none" class="" style="">Phil Nuytten via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style="">
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<div class="" style="">Hi, Scott,</div>
<div class="" style="">The major reason that quite a few operators prefer subs over ROV’s is the
absence of a surface tether. This allows you to go places that you
shouldn’t and wouldn’t go with a machine because the risk of entanglement –
inside platform legs, pile jackets, etc., There are a number of other reasons
that have to do with the operators senses being right on the site rather than a
half a mile away. Difficult to explain is the ‘whole grasp’ scenario that ROV
operators who try manned subs almost always mention. Simply put, in a sub with a
wide view port or a 360 degree dome, you have a strong sense of where
everything is – how long ago you passed that pipeline, what direction it’s in to
go back to, the lay of the bottom, the trending of the currents, where to
find lees to hide in, how to avoid ‘box canyon’ current pins, the ability to hit
‘auto altitude’ and fly a fixed height above a pipeline or cable regardless of
the bottom (and therefore the cable’s) undulations. When it comes to doing
complex work using manips, there’s no contest man versus machines. Machines do
get the work done if they are set up properly, but much slower and with many
tries, compared to the pilot whose hand on the joystick is five feet away from
the work .</div>
<div class="" style="">You often hear ROV types say ‘well, it’s just the same as being there”. .
. Yeah, right! just like telephone sex is the same as the real
thing!</div>
<div class="" style="">I’ll get off my soapbox now.</div>
<div class="" style="">Phil</div>
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<div class="" style=""><b class="" style="">Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:43 PM</div>
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<div class="" style=""><b class="" style="">Subject:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Commercial question</div></div></div>
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<div class="" style="">I have always heard that ROV's are cheaper to operate, less risky, and
cheaper to buy. I was curious what is the advantages of submarines in the
commercial world such as the oil industry? It seems like Phil Nuyten has been
able to be sucsessful with submarines. Just a curiousity of mine.</div>
<div class="" style="">Thanks,</div>
<div class="" style="">Scott Waters</div>
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