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size=2>Still cheap..<BR><BR>may calculate the
acrylic first. Will be the biggest single price item. <BR>And not
worry
about the cost. If you later have to double the figures.. so
what.. <BR><BR>I calculate 6 years and need 12.</font> But it
match
the cost figure per year - was exact double the money as
expected..<BR><BR>The
last offer I saw for a commercial 1000m for two was over 1 Million and
that was
20 years ago..
<BR><BR>If you planing that long 7 years you cn
start to collect useful hadware just now. <BR>A CO2 meter for 50 bucks
here , 20
highpressure vale in good condition cheap
there. <BR> <BR>About the
pressure tank: They are nearly free of cost and huge: Atlantic ocean,
Pacific
ocean.. just the money to tow the boat out. <BR><BR>vbr
Carsten<BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>That $125,000 figure is now about $170,000 in today's
dollars.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Jim</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 4/9/2014 7:46:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>You can not make a comparison between what Karl built and
what
Scott wants to build. The two subs are totally different.
I could
see building Scott's dream sub for 125K if you have your own
pressure
vessel fab shop. (maybe) Otherwise it just isn't
realistic
for that cost. </SPAN></DIV>
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do not mean to imply that Scott or any other psub builder can not
build a
k3000. As a matter of fact with the proper budget and realistic
assessment of your abilities we can all do it. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT size=2 face=Arial>On Wednesday, April 9, 2014
5:06:52 AM,
James Frankland <jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com>
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<DIV>Scott,</DIV>
<DIV>Have a look at this. As long as your a student of something,
somewhere, your ok. Join a local tiddlywinks class or
something.</DIV>
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<DIV>This is not too difficult to use.</DIV>
<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>James</DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv5929188068gmail_quote>On 9 April 2014 04:09, swaters
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<DIV>I will do the work myself, and not hire it out professionally.
I built
my K-350 and it was $40,000 after all the gadgets were put in and I
hired
out alot of work because I didn't know how to do it at the time. I
did a
comparative analysis on weight to dollar. My K-350 at $40,000 and
4,500 lbs
is comparative ofa 10,500 lb sub would be $93,333 if you add more
for
acrylic costs my rough math seems to jive with the
$125,000. </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Scott Waters</DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv5929188068h5>hank pronk <<A
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<DIV><SPAN>I think that is a dream guys, 125K no way. Not if
it is a
professional build, and it has to be. If you do it right you
can spend
that to do 1,000 feet. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:25:15 PM,
Douglas
Suhr <<A title=mailto:spiritofcalypso@gmail.com
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<DIV dir=ltr>Wow! $125K for 2500 3000 feet? That's some serious
dollar-to-fathom value! </DIV>
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<DIV>On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:14 PM, swaters <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV>$125,000 is reachable for me. Sounds like this could be a
reality.</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Scott Waters</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 75%; COLOR: rgb(87,87,87)">Sent from my
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<DIV>He said in an interview that Idabel cost $125,000.<BR
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<DIV dir=ltr>Scott, I have no experience with any large pressure
chambers, but I am sure you are talking well into the thousands
(perhaps
$15,000 to $35,000) depending on how long it takes to set up the
required tests (and perform them).
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<DIV>I truly admire your ambition, but like Hank suggested, 1000
feet
may be a better 2nd sub goal. If I were planning to go beyond
1000 feet,
I would be looking to Nuytco, SeaMagine or Triton but of course
cost is
then a major issue again. Does anyone know about how much Karl
spent
building Idabel? ~ Douglas S. </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:48 PM, swaters <SPAN
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<DIV>Any idea as to the cost of pressure testing that kind of
pressure? </DIV>
<DIV>Also, I am not a engineer, but am fairly good at
designing things
in my head. If I designed this in CAD, does psubs have a good
way of
sharing CAD files for who ever would like too look at my
designs and
bounce ideas off of? </DIV>
<DIV>I would love for this project to be a way for psubs to
increase
overall psubs knowledge of cutting edge and affordable
solutions for
things like sonar and manipulator arms and
things.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Scott Waters</DIV>
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<DIV>Maryland and California (Navy) and Texas (southwest
research).</DIV>
<DIV>Vance<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Sent from my
iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=none>On Apr 8, 2014, at 7:14 PM, swaters <<A
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<DIV>So is the design of crush depth of 1750m and test to
1250m the
idea? Next question is where can you find a pressure chamber
that
has 1670psi capability?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Scott Waters</DIV>
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James
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<DIV><SPAN>Scott,</SPAN></DIV>
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general people design their boats with a crush depth
of</SPAN></DIV>
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"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif;
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their operating depth, then test them to 1.25 or 1.5
x</SPAN></DIV>
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"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif;
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proposed maximum operating depth.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent'><SPAN>So
design to 2000 meters & test it to 1250
meters.</SPAN></DIV>
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[PSUBS-MAILIST] New
submarine<BR clear=none></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>I am playing with the idea of building another
submarine. Here
is what I am thinking.</DIV>
<DIV>1) This project needs to be as challenging as the same
amount
of difficulty as it was to build my first submarine</DIV>
<DIV>2) I want to have lots of bottom time with my K-350 to
learn
what needs to be improved on in design and ability.</DIV>
<DIV>3) Learn to use CAD </DIV>
<DIV>4) Project will take 5-7 years to complete</DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>My initial goals are</DIV>
<DIV>1) Hold 3 people</DIV>
<DIV>2) Weigh 10,500lbs or less</DIV>
<DIV>3) Depth of 3,300 feet (1000m)</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>4) Have a very effective range of abilities such as a
good
manipulator arm and tooling</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>5) Have a wide veiwing maybe a acylic dome front</DIV>
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<DIV>Ok, shoot holes in the ideas. What will be the main
challenges
to overcome? What complications am I not considering?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Scott Waters</DIV>
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