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size=2>Scott waste not so much money for
auxillaries like a pressure dock test or a cad programm.<BR>Use the
Atlantic or
Pacific and a paper and a pencil. Take the money safe into the
sub.. </font> <BR><BR>vbr Carsten
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<BR>"Alan" <alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com> schrieb:
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<div>Scott, get as much information on it as you can before
purchasing.</div><div>The initial cost is negligible compared with the
hours you spend</div><div>learning it. It would be a bummer spending
hundreds of hours</div><div>learning a program & finding you could
have purchased something more</div><div>relevant.</div><div>I looked at
Solid Works & went to a 3 hr seminar on updates from
2012</div><div>to 2013. The program was so huge, it scared me off. It
would have been</div><div>ok if I were intending to use it 40 hrs a
week, but for just designing subs,</div><div>I would have got totally
overwhelmed.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br>Sent from my
iPad</div><div><br>On 10/04/2014, at 7:32 am, <<A
href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a>>
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><div>Haha. I appreciate the info. I feel like last time this
discussion was kind of like this with no real conclusion and I was very
confused as what to do, me being a first timer to CAD. </div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Scott Waters </div>
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<div id="wmQuoteWrapper">-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] CAD software<br>From: <A
href="mailto:JimToddPsub@aol.com">JimToddPsub@aol.com</a><br>Date: Wed,
April 09, 2014 12:24 pm<br>To: <A
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<div>Changing the thread title:</div>
<div><font size="3">Scott,</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">I bought <em>TurboCAD Pro Platinum 18</em> with two
training CDs. <a href="http://www.imsidesign.com/"
target="_blank">http://www.imsidesign.com/</a></font></div>
<div><font size="3">It seems to be a great program with full volumetric
and parametric capabilities (important). I think Steve McQueen
uses it. Besides all the features, I chose it because of
the huge discount for not being the very latest release.
A new release comes out at least once per year. The version
updates are reasonable, but it's not at all necessary to get each one as
they're released. I didn't buy <em>AutoCAD</em> because of the
high cost, however with the eligibility to get the educational version
that consideration might disappear.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">I've just told all I know on the subject, so I'm
going to leave it to others to expound on it.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Jim</font></div></div>
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<div>In a message dated 4/9/2014 2:17:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, <A
href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>
writes:</div>
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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Scott / Carsten,</div>
<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">>> I am not sure if
Rino can give figures like center of graphity, of bouanvy, weights,
areas and so on. </div>
<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">See the link. Orca is a
marine design program plug in for Rhino. </div>
<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><a
title="http://www.orca3d.com/Orca3dJ/"
href="http://www.orca3d.com/Orca3dJ/"
target="_blank">http://www.orca3d.com/Orca3dJ/</a></div>
<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Alan</div>
<div><br><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">Sent from my
iPad</span></div>
<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto"><br>On 10/04/2014, at 6:05
am, "Carsten Standfuß " <<A title=mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de
href="mailto:MerlinSub@t-online.de"
target=_blank>MerlinSub@t-online.de</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Courier New">Scott Rhino is mostly a modeller
for nices shapes and surfaces - not a real CAD programm. <br>Rinoi is
nice if you like to design something organic. Like the exterior of a
motoryacht.<br>For a submarine use a 2D or 3D Autocad, Megacad or
simillar or Inventor if you like to go 3D. </font> <br>I am
not sure if Rino can give figures like center of graphity, of bouanvy,
weights, areas and so on. <br><br>vbr Carsten<br><br>"Joe Perkel" <<A
title=mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com href="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>josephperkel@yahoo.com</a>> schrieb:
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<td valign="top">Scott,<br><br>For CAD I must of course recommend what I
use, Rhino3d with Flamingo NXT renderer. I have not seen nicer
renderings for marine designs than this combination can
produce.<br><br>As for inspiration, think "out of the box," look for it
in odd places. Bigger need not be necessarily better, but "inspired,"
"imaginative."<br><br><br>Joe<a
title="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS"
href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS"
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span> </b>swaters <<A
title=mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com"
target=_blank>swaters@waters-ks.com</a>>; <br><b><span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span> </b>Personal Submersibles General
Discussion <<A title=mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org
href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org"
target=_blank>personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>; <br><b><span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span> </b>Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New
submarine <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span> </b>Wed,
Apr 9, 2014 2:46:53 PM <br></div><br>
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<div>Very true. I am still in the research phase and will put together a
full spreadsheet. I do the same thing when I build new stores. It is
possible to find the project is not feasable and move on to the next
idea too.</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Scott Waters</div>
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