<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Yea. I was worried about spending a ton of money on a sonar and under water comms. I did alot of research to make me feel better about it.</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</div></div> <br>Alan James <alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com> wrote:<br><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Looks like you've done your homework on it Scott.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Simrad has just put out a forward scanner but I can't find a price.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I think this will be the last item I buy on my current build, as technology</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial,
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>seems to change so quickly. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> swaters <swaters@waters-ks.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:41 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6969413869"><div><div>I would rip the transducer off the deployment system and hard mount it on the underside of the front. This would allow a 270 degree range or so. Seeing behind you isn't that terrebly important in my eyes. The transducer will go way down. It is epoxy filled and has no air in it. </div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757;">Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</div></div> <br clear="none">Alan James <alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"><div class="yiv6969413869yqt5476254643" id="yiv6969413869yqt87510"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div><span>Scott,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>just had a look at the Hummingbird 360. Very impressive.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I wonder what depth you could take the transducer down to?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span>It has a deployment system where it is lowered below the boat.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I'm not sure how we would get around the fact that it would be</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>quite vulnerable mounted unobstructed & below the submarine.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> swaters <swaters@waters-ks.com><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:01 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv6969413869y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv6969413869"><div><div>If you can afford it, get the 360 degree modual. It is another $2,000, but it would do forward looking, side scan, and downward!</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott Waters</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="font-size:75%;color:#575757;">Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</div></div> <br clear="none">Alan James <alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"><div class="yiv6969413869yqt9939877883" id="yiv6969413869yqt47731"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"><div><span>Hank,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px;
font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I'm not clued up on sonar, but I remember reading that G.L. requires a downward & forward looking</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>sonar. Certainly the forward looking sonar would be useful for collision avoidance in low vis conditions.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;
font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk <hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:10 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv6969413869y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv6969413869"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size:
12pt;"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div><span>From what I can find so far, the diver equip does
not have near the range. If the figures are true with my radio's, my wife can sit on the dock and read her book and check in with me from time to time.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv6969413869yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv6969413869yqt1123507017" id="yiv6969413869yqt98978"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, March 28, 2014 11:40:33 AM, Alan James
<alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv6969413869y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6969413869"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Hank,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>your communication equipment might have a lot more power</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>than a divers unit. The diver has to carry the batteries</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>with him & is not going as deep as you are.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>Alan</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div class="yiv6969413869yqt0169759268" id="yiv6969413869yqt74401"><div dir="ltr"> <div class="yiv6969413869hr" style="margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px;"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk
<hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:29 AM<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv6969413869y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv6969413869"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><div><span>Scott,</span></div><div><span>I would love to see some pictures of the image you get on your sonar. When you start testing could you post some pic's . </span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv6969413869yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div class="yiv6969413869yqt2419703217" id="yiv6969413869yqt85822"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, March 28, 2014 11:18:57 AM, swaters <swaters@waters-ks.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv6969413869y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6969413869"><div><div>Sweet. Good luck! Let me know if I can help on
anything. </div><div>-Scott Waters</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="color:rgb(87, 87, 87);font-size:75%;">Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</div></div> <br clear="none">hank pronk <hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca> wrote:<br clear="none"><div class="yiv6969413869yqt4024518179" id="yiv6969413869yqt79475"><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><div><span>Thanks' Scott,</span></div><div><span>I have sent out a couple of inquires and I will see what comes back.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv6969413869yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Friday, March 28, 2014 10:00:01 AM, "swaters@waters-ks.com" <swaters@waters-ks.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv6969413869y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6969413869"><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;"></span><div>Here is the link Hank. Great
deals on underwater comms. This is where I got mine for my sub and surface unit.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div id="yiv6969413869wmQuoteWrapper">-------- Original Message --------<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's<br clear="none">From: hank pronk <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>><br clear="none">Date: Fri, March 28, 2014 8:46 am<br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br clear="none"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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<div><span>I agree, but I am having a hard time finding anything on line. The tec did say my radio's are better than today's radio's. He was probably giving me a sales job though.</span></div>
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<div><span>I found some info on the radio's, seems they are the original radio's. Manufactured by EDO Corporation. They were refurbished in 1992</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">On Friday, March 28, 2014 9:28:27 AM, hank pronk <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div>
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<div><span>I got the quote from a electronic repair shop. The radio's are not OTS, I can not remember the name off hand and all the manuals etc are at their shop now. The radio's are made for submarines, they are not diver radio's. The radio's are rack mount and they were even labeled with Nekton Gamma on them.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">On Friday, March 28, 2014 9:10:48 AM, "<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com">swaters@waters-ks.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div>
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<div>Who did you say gave you the quote? Is this OTS brand?</div>
<div>Thanks,<br clear="none">Scott Waters </div>
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<div id="yiv6969413869wmQuoteWrapper">-------- Original Message --------<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radio's<br clear="none">From: hank pronk <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>><br clear="none">Date: Fri, March 28, 2014 8:00 am<br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br clear="none"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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<div><span>The radio's do not work completely now. The pinger works and one frequency works only. They are cleaning up the corrosion and re-sealing them and they claim the radio's will work perfect as new.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:16:43 AM, Steve McQueen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:psub101@indy.rr.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:psub101@indy.rr.com">psub101@indy.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div>
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<div>Hi Hank, I was just curious if you had more specifics regarding "rebuild". What is in that scope? Do they work now?<br clear="none"></div>Steve<br clear="none"></div>
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<div>Hi All,</div>
<div>I need radio advice. My technician tells me, he can rebuild my radio's to as new condition for 2,000 dollars. He has checked them out and says they are very good radio's and the transducers are perfect. The radio's have a 1,000 foot depth rating and 6 km range according to the manual. I am assuming this is much better than buying new radio's. I have no idea what these are worth and I want to make sure I am not fixing radio's that I can replace for the same money. </div>
<div>I would appreciate some advice before I pull the trigger and tell them to fix the radio's.</div><span class="yiv6969413869HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span>
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