<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>The premise behind that notion is "Failure to warn" likely a basic premise worldwide. That is why amateur aircraft are placarded as such. </div><div><br></div><div>I've always suspected that requirement to be more of a public service announcement than a disclaimer.</div><div><br></div><div>Joe<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:34 PM, "Emile van Essen" <<a href="mailto:emile@airesearch.nl">emile@airesearch.nl</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt">“But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that
a submarine is a potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on there
own risk.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt">Doing this makes no sense. If a accident is related to
bad safety precautions or a big mistake by the pilot, you have a problem
anyway..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt">Regards, Emile<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Namens </span></b>"<st1:personname productid="Carsten Standfuß" w:st="on">Carsten Standfuß</st1:personname> "<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Verzonden:</span></b> donderdag 27 maart 2014
18:11<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Aan:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General
Discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Onderwerp:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
insurance</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"">All SL classe subs have a insurance. <br>
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Nessesary if you try to carry passengers for money. <br>
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The lawer of the children of a 90 years old passenger with a deadly heardattack
on his birthday travel<br>
in your sub will strip you to nothing if you have no insurance. <br>
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Euronaut has no class but a P&I insurance due to the owners good
network in the shipbuilding industry. <br>
And maybe due to the fact that the owner work as naval architect and time to
time for a classification society..<br>
</span></font>But anyway passenger have to sign a paper that a submarine is a
potential dangerous machine and they take the trip on there own risk. <br>
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But why you want to insure? The insurance will only cover the damage the sub do
to others. <br>
I dont think that you sub will do major damage to others. Such a minimum
insurance will cost you about 4000-5000 USD a year. <br>
A full insurance in all directions will cost you maybe 10 times more. <br>
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And if teh sub sinks it will be much cheaper if you raise it by yourself.
Just in case you survife.. <br>
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For transport on a road you can insure the boat just as cargo or Motorboat. <br>
The insurance will not see a special risk in that. And for storage it should be
the same. <br>
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vbr Carsten<br>
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"hank pronk" <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> schrieb: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">I
have made an attempt to buy insurance for my sub. I contacted my
insurance broker that I deal with for my business as well as my daughter who is
an insurance broker. It is not possible unless the sub is
certified. I was only looking for insurance to cover loss during storage
and during transport. I was only looking for a set amount to cover
my actual costs. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">My
next attempt will be adding cargo insurance through my business and maybe my
home insurance can be modified.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Does
anyone have insurance on a sub here?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Hank<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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