<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Brian,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>it says it can be used for beer brewing, so no need to worry about it's</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>low temperature range & hey there's another use for it when you aren't</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>annealing. & they are programmable.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18.88888931274414px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Brian Cox <brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:29 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oven pics<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv5187573294"><div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div><br clear="none">Hi Alan,</div><div> I didn't see how they exactly work, but I imagine what you would want is a fully programmable system . I would be curious to see what is out there and what the commercial viewport makers use. They may be custom systems.</div><div> </div><div>I know the kiln controls work at much higher temperatures however. </div><div> </div><div>Brian</div><div> </div><div class="yiv5187573294yqt3668100645" id="yiv5187573294yqt29970"><div><br clear="none">--- alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: Alan James
<alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oven pics<br clear="none">Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:46:53 -0700 (PDT)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Brian,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>I haven't looked in to this unit deeply, but there are a lot of items like</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span>it on Ebay, that control kilns. </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank"
href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Professional-Ramp-Soak-Temperature-Controller-Kiln-SSR-Kit-Ceramic-Thermocouple-/121092751234">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Professional-Ramp-Soak-Temperature-Controller-Kiln-SSR-Kit-Ceramic-Thermocouple-/121092751234</a><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">You may be able to just cut the power cord going in to your oven & connect it to the relay.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">If you have a number of view ports to anneal it would save you some
sleep.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Brian Cox <brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:05 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oven pics<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Hi Alan,</div><div> I haven't actually gone
through the whole cycle yet, I just tested it for about 6 hours just to see how bad the temperature swings were going to be. I was please to see that the temperature lags very slowly in the acrylic compared to the other temperature sensor. I'm confident that I can follow the annealing chart very closely. I also wanted to arrange the two hold times ( for the normalizing run) so that they occur in the early morning so I can sleep ! I need to be actively monitoring the cool down periods.</div><div> </div><div>Brian</div><div> </div><div><br clear="none">---
alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">From: Alan <alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com><br clear="none">To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oven pics<br clear="none">Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:37:23 +1300<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>Good idea using the ceramic Brian. </div><div>Did you manage to keep within the required temperature range?</div><div>Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div><div><br clear="none">On 27/03/2014, at 4:29 am, "Brian Cox" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com">brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote><div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div>Here are some shots of my annealing
oven. I was able to recruit my friend who fires tile, he had some ceramic pieces that we fit in the oven to help shield the direct radiation of the heating elements. Also with the extra mass of all the ceramic it improved the heat sink storage and made for more even temperature changes.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Brian</div><div> </div></div></div></blockquote></div><blockquote><div><oven21.jpg></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><probe-in-acrylic1.jpg></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none"><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank"
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