<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top">Hank,<br/><br/>You've got a good eye my friend!<br/><br/>This preliminary model does show a limited cutout. If you look at the line drawing and follow the curved line, you can get an idea of what the final product would likely look like in side elevation. That line drawing is not mine by the way. It is simply an elevation of the real SeeHund scaled in two dimensions to approximate Sea Hunters profile.<br/><br/>This work to date was a brief study in feasibility and aesthetics to see if I wanted to proceed with real design work or not. Interestingly, the real SeeHund's midsection in section view scales nearly perfectly to a K-350's section view with some minor dimensional and positional differences, but very close. That's why it works aesthetically in reduced scale.<br/><br/>Now comes detail design work with weight and balance calculations. I've got a long slog ahead of
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                                        <td valign="top"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>Joe,</span></div><div><span>Your design looks terrific, but I recommend you make a cardboard life size model of the front half of the hull and mbt.  I think you will find your front mbt  is to low and your idea of piloting from the prone position will be difficult with the restricted visibility.  Also your visibility will be restricted by your manipulators  unless they are tucked up inside the mbt.  I bet most successful subs started out as cardboard.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,
 Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yqt3388627670" id="yqt13916"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:55:51 PM, Joe Perkel <josephperkel@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div>  <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2836586811"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">



</font></span></div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><div style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Alan, I'll bet you've been to Tuscany, haven't you?:)</span></div><div>

</div><div style="background:white;"><span></span><span style="color:black;"><span>Not visible in that view, a forward dome
will depend on budget at the time of construction. A flat window will suffice
albeit not as nice. </span></span></div><div>

</div><div style="background:white;"><span></span><span style="color:black;"><span>I'm really thinking hard on making the
prone position the captain's as opposed to the tower. Field of view will be significantly
better than seated in the tower, and ergonomically placed hand controls with an
Alec Smyth style chest support should do the trick nicely in that position.
Besides, in the event of a severe flooding casualty, I wonder about the wisdom
of being physically between the hatch and a severely panicked passenger
fighting for life. That is not a pleasant thought.</span></span></div><div>

</div><div style="background:white;"><span></span><span style="color:black;"><span>The design has poor footing on the
surface. I'm thinking non-skid paint topside and on the saddle tanks. The flat
area behind the hatch will have a vertical thruster there. Maybe a grille
strong enough to step on wouldn't be a bad idea at all!</span></span></div><div>

</div><div style="background:white;"><span></span><span style="color:black;"><span>Lots of refining to do and you've given
me something to think about in entry and egress.</span></span></div><div>

</div><div style="background:white;"><span></span><span style="color:black;"><span>Joe</span></span></div><div>

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</font></div><div><span></span> </div><div class="yiv2836586811yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yiv2836586811yqt9030627958" id="yiv2836586811yqt42939"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:36 PM, Alan James <alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div>  <div class="yiv2836586811y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2836586811"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div id="yiv2836586811"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><div
 id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_14"><span id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_24">Hi Joe,</span></div><div id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_14" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_27">I still can't see that bow dome!</span></div><div id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_14" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_31">You look to have the hatch hinged to the stern side of the
 dome.</span></div><div id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_14" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">If you had it hinged the other side then that flat area at the top of the conning</div><div id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_14" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">tower could be used for climbing in & out while keeping your feet dry.</div><div id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_14" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Other than that it looks much
 better than a trip to Tuscany.</div><div class="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395026783689_4497" id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_14" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">Alan</div><div id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395026783689_2884"><br clear="none" id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_16"></div>  <div class="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_18" id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1395026783689_19" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div class="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395026783689_2687" id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395026783689_2791" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div class="yiv2836586811yqt6360252318" id="yiv2836586811yqt28941"><div class="yiv2836586811yqt2600844402" id="yiv2836586811yqt66164"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395026783689_2790"> <div class="yiv2836586811hr" style="margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204,
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 0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><div id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395026783689_2887">For lack of a more inspired identity, I've named it "SeaHunter."  No doubt that I'll refine this a bit between now and build time, but this what she'll look like.</div><div id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395026783689_2890"> </div><div id="yiv2836586811yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395026783689_2891"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/projects/1371101163/seahunter/">http://www.psubs.org/projects/1371101163/seahunter/</a></div><div> </div><div>Joe</div><div> </div><div> </div></div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a
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