<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thanks Joe,</div><div>You won't need scan & solve. Just email the files when I</div><div>learn how to use it.</div><div>Alan<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 14/03/2014, at 2:40 am, Joe Perkel <<a href="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com">josephperkel@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt">Alan,<br><br>You've got some premier tools there at your disposal, very nice! <br><br>Scan and Solve is more utilitarian than a simple pressure boundary calculator which you have in Cliff's spreadsheet already. What Quicken is to accounting, applications like Scan and Solve are to engineering. Home-builders/designers in all disciplines have a tendency to <span style="font-style: italic;">"over-engineer"</span> individual components with a <span style="font-style: italic;">"more is better"</span> philosophy.<br><br>Scan and Solve will allow you to input known material properties and then simulate expected forces / stresses to failure while analyzing the results. This allows the amateur to design with confidence to minimum scantlings necessary to get the job done with an appropriately determined
safety factor. Really cool stuff, I want one! It's on my wish list.<br><br>Joe<br><div><span><br></span></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, March 13, 2014 5:07 AM, Alan James <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5070408525"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"><div><span>Joe,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande',
sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>I recently bought Orca but won't be touching it till I master Rhino 5.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>I also bought Scan & Solve, which is a rudimentary FEA plug in for Rhino</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>that I am told can analyse a hull for external pressure.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Glad to know there is someone I can
annoy if I get stuck with Orca.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yiv5070408525yqt9499967523" id="yiv5070408525yqt13013"><div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Joe Perkel
<<a href="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com">josephperkel@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:20 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Minn kota Dimensions<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv5070408525y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv5070408525"><div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top">Alan,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I've been doing precisely that over a number of years. Many vendors from
fittings to electric motors provide CAD files. McMaster Carr, is a fine source by the way.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I have Orca 3d (dedicated marine design) as a plug in for Rhino. Among its virtues is the ability to assign material densities for accurate weight and balance calculations. It calculates volumes based on object geometry so long as the object is a closed solid without naked edges. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">I don't know if Rhino native can do that or not, (perhaps 5 can ?) it's damn handy for this kind of work.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Joe<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad</a></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="yiv5070408525yqt5879661658" id="yiv5070408525yqt51099"><div id="yiv5070408525_origMsg_">
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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top"><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"><div><span>This might be the psub way of the future Joe.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Have a bank of CAD files to pick & choose from to build your submarine.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>I'll have that hull, those light housings, those electrical
connections etc. Put it all together</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>then order or send the files off to the cnc machines.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Alan</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yiv5070408525yqt0693353507" id="yiv5070408525yqt91856"><div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Joe Perkel <<a href="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com">josephperkel@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>>
<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:32 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Minn kota Dimensions<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv5070408525y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv5070408525"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;">Alan,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I see you got what you asked for, David was my source as well.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Rhino 5 huh?, must be nice I have 4. I figure a few more weekends at the intersection with my cardboard sign <span style="font-style:italic;">"Will work for CAD upgrade"</span> should do the trick! :)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Joe<br clear="none"><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div class="yiv5070408525yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none">
<br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yiv5070408525yqt3224264214" id="yiv5070408525yqt66489"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:44 AM, Alan James <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv5070408525y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5070408525"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"><div><span>Thanks for the warning David.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande',
sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>It would probably be smart using the Minn kota motor controllers if I use the 101s.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Alan</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:18.88888931274414px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida
Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David Colombo <<a href="mailto:seaquestor@gmail.com">seaquestor@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Personal
Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:58 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Minn kota Dimensions<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv5070408525y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv5070408525"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Alan,</div><div>If your going to be using the Minn Kota PWM unit I have that as well. They are a lot bigger than I thought they would be, and since I have 6 of them, it takes some space planning to layout the units and their wires that come factory installed to make the most efficient use of wire lengths, and how to place them against the hull to help take away some the heat that they generate, and to be able to service them. </div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>David</div></div><div class="yiv5070408525gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Best Regards,<br clear="none">David Colombo<br clear="none"><img height="147" width="200" src="cid:"><br clear="none">
804 College Ave<br clear="none">Santa Rosa, CA. 95404<br clear="none">(707) 536-1424<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.seaquestor.com/">www.SeaQuestor.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv5070408525gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Alan James <span dir="ltr"><<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv5070408525gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="yiv5070408525yqt9321735140" id="yiv5070408525yqt54727"><div><div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"><div>Many thanks David,</div><div>it opened in Rhino 5 OK.</div><div>I spent hours on the web trying to find the specs on that.</div>
<div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">
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Hi Alan, </div><div>Here is the Minn Kota thruster elevations. This is an acad 2004 dwg file. You can remove the elements of the kort nozzle as well.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none">
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<br clear="all"><div>Best Regards,<br clear="none">David Colombo<br clear="none"><img height="147" width="200" src="cid:"><br clear="none">804 College Ave<br clear="none">
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Alan James <span dir="ltr"><<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div> <div><br clear="none"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Alan, I have the 101 thruster measured and in autocad 2004 version. I will email you the cad files if can open the DWG file. I had to create the specs to be able to fabricate the ss kort nozzle and mounting assembly.<br clear="none">
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<div>On Mar 11, 2014 8:15 PM, "Alan James" <<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;">
<div><div><div><div>Joe or anyone,</div><div>have you got the dimensions for the Minn kota 101?</div>
<div>I remember you searching for them at one stage.</div>
<div>I am using Rhino 5 in case you have a compatible file.</div><div>Doesn't have to be incredibly accurate as it is just for</div><div>a mock up.</div><div>Thanks </div><div>Alan</div></div></div></div><br clear="none">
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