<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Joe,</span></div><div><span>Looks great! is that snow on the sub? :-)</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:18:41 PM, Joe Perkel <josephperkel@yahoo.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3222664435"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
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<div id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393965818966_5"><span id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393965818966_11">Alan / Chris,</span></div>
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<div id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1393965818966_2257" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 19px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393965818966_50">Yes, the torpedoes do double duty as battery pods. I was told I <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-3">dont</span> need them with the <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-4">centerline</span> propulsion unit, and although somewhat redundant, I'm inclined to put low HP propulsion units in isolated 1 ATM cans in the aft end of both. The forward ends would house high power lights for night exploration.</span></div>
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<div id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1393965818966_2359" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 19px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393965818966_1335">You can't see it well in this view, but the forward <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-5">MBT</span> is open at the bottom, that's a manipulator you see in there that would swing to both sides. The boat's mission requirements are photography/video, small object retrieval, and a lift bag deployment capability. Size of the forward <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-6">viewport</span>(s) are not yet determined, but forward visibility is <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-7">hamperred</span> in any case and would need to be supplemented by technology. Note the Gamma inspired side
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<div id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1393965818966_3086" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 19px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393965818966_3828">I want this to be able to swing 360 deg within its own length, translate horizontally and vertically with small bursts of thrusters. This means very fine <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-8">bouyancy</span> control, so a large volume <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-9">centerline</span> <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-10">VBT</span> is envisioned. The dive planes are fixed for most ops, used for dynamic dive control at speed and at periscope depth, (a dangerous place to be), the periscope uses micro cams.</span></div>
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<div id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1393965818966_3627" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 19px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393965818966_5814">Forward peak would house cameras and scanning sonar transducer in a housing <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-11">seperate</span> from the <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-12">foward</span> <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-13">MBT</span>. Those are in fact saddle tanks in this view and would be vented together in the sail. Aft <span class="yiv3222664435mark" id="yiv3222664435misspell-14">MBT</span> would end just forward of the housing that encloses the main propulsion unit.</span></div>
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<div id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_10"><span id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_20">Hi Joe,</span></div>
<div class="yiv3222664435ms__id690" id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_10" style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;'><span id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_23">are they torpedoes on the side or battery pods with motors attached?</span></div>
<div class="yiv3222664435ms__id691" id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_10" style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;'><span id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_26">With the upcoming advances in battery densities & prices, it tips the balance a bit more</span></div>
<div class="yiv3222664435ms__id692" id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_10" style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;'><span id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_29">in favor of just electric over the complications of diesel / electric.</span></div>
<div class="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1393961625994_7099 yiv3222664435ms__id693" id="yiv3222664435yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_10" style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13.33px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;'><span>It looks great, however it looks like you don't have a large </span><span style="background-color: transparent;">forward view port.</span></div>
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