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From: Joe Perkel <josephperkel@yahoo.com><br>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles@psubs.org><br>
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alvin Jr is no more<br>
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<div id="yiv3759995535yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393965818966_5"><span id="yiv3759995535yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393965818966_11">Alan / Chris,</span></div>
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<font size="2" face="Arial"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Alan James <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:06 PM<br>
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<div id="yiv3759995535yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_10"><span id="yiv3759995535yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1393961625994_20">Hi Joe,</span></div>
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<div id="yiv3759995535yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1393961625994_2968">I've been working on a more <span id="yiv3759995535misspell-0"><span>tow able</span></span> friendly concept for some time. Its a reduced scale Seehund replica @ 18' <span id="yiv3759995535misspell-2"><span>length</span></span> with a 36" OD hull. Shes all electric (No Diesel) and she sure looks pretty in this concept sketch. I hope it comes through because I am unable to add it to my project page. <span id="yiv3759995535misspell-3"><span>Incidentally</span></span>, the <span id="yiv3759995535misspell-4">Kriegsmarine</span> flag is for image effect and would not be flown in public.<br class="yiv3759995535yui-cursor" clear="none"></div>
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