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<DIV><FONT size=3>Hank,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>I just had to put a subject line to this thread. I
recalled that Scott Cassell did a similar test with <EM>Great White</EM> in
2012 also in a lake (Hi, Scott!). Here's a link to an article on that
dive.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Jim </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 2/7/2014 7:58:56 P.M. Central Standard Time,
hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Alan,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>I think the weight of the cable will prevent feeling
anything. 1,000 feet of cable, that is a long way! Also the
sub may come up on any old angle all the way from that depth, it
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<DIV><SPAN> land in my driveway at home lol.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Vance,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Your starting to make me nervous :-) I will send you the
first picture of it back on the trailer.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT size=2 face=Arial>On Friday, February 7, 2014 6:47:39 PM,
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<DIV>Your wife, Hank. Now there's a good option, does she know how</DIV>
<DIV>to operate the ballast valves?</DIV>
<DIV>If the cable started going slack you would know the sub was</DIV>
<DIV>coming up & could get out of the way. just keep tension on the
line</DIV>
<DIV>with the boat & as long as there is an angle on the cable you won't
get</DIV>
<DIV>hit.</DIV>
<DIV>Alan<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Sent from my iPad</DIV>
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<DIV><BR clear=none>On 8/02/2014, at 1:33 pm, hank pronk <<A
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<DIV><SPAN>Joe,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>My wife, (the brains of the operation) says the same
thing. I have to agree, I can send it down on the cable and bring it
up on the cable. The auto pilot Alec sent me is a fantastic back
up. If there is a problem with the lifting system, I will just back
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT size=2 face=Arial>On Friday, February 7, 2014 5:27:46 PM,
Joe Perkel <<A title=mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com
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<DIV>What I don't like about deep water remote testing, is the fact that we
are testing against the worst case scenario, a sub full of water. The good
news of course being unmanned.</DIV>
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<DIV>Therefore to my mind we must be prepared for that worst case scenario,
meaning being in the best possible position to recover the sub. That means
heavy lifting doesn't it?</DIV>
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<DIV>Sending a grapple down a line requires 100% success in making contact,
is that assured? I don't know I've never done it.</DIV>
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<DIV>So if I had the means to send it down on a cable, that's what I think
I'd do.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR clear=none>On Feb 7, 2014, at 6:08 PM, hank pronk <<A
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<DIV>PROBLEM, now that I am getting Alec's auto pilot, I run the risk of
the sub surfacing violently if it develops a leak and the water sensor
tells the sub to surface. If I have my steel barge above Gamma there
could be a very serious collision. The other option is to forget the
barge and send Gamma down with a rope attached as a locator and a way to
slide a cable down to retrieve it. The rope only needs a rubber
float to locate it. I would put a second auto pilot in that relies
on a battery going dead to make it surface with a separate hp
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<DIV>What to do hmmm</DIV>
<DIV>The other option is use the auto pilot from Alec without the water
sensor and have the barge over Gamma with the cable between. Then
there is a safety if the cable fell off or what ever, and if the sub fills
with water I can winch it up. </DIV>
<DIV>Hmm , what do you guys think.</DIV>
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