<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top">Vance,<br/><br/>I don't have a pic or drawing of PC8 without the MBT's, but there is one of PC 14 in the Busby text with the rings as you described. Now I see how to place them and the rationale where the shell is concerned as opposed to having anything to do with the CT ring itself. Moving these outside really opens up the inside dramatically.<br/><br/>I suppose one could do an erector set type tubular AL frame inside wherever equipment has to be hung ala Alvin's birdcage.<br/><br/>Thanks Vance, that reference to PC 14 was helpful!<br/><br/><br/>Joe<a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad</a></td></tr></table>            <div id="_origMsg_">
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                            Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] External Frames                            <br>
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                                        <td valign="top"><div>The skirt on the Nektons is an extended doubler plate. No longer legal as a nozzle reinforcement. </div><div>Vance<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</div><div class="yqt6337235336" id="yqt74060"><div><br clear="none">On Jan 22, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Joe Perkel <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">josephperkel@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top">I have a couple of questions reference external framing. The K350 conning tower reinforcement ring straddles three frames.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">If moving frames outside, what is to be done with those three frames? Or should they be left in place? <br clear="none"><br clear="none">I
 notice Gamma has two internal frames and what could be described as a conning tower skirt as opposed to a ring.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Joe<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none"><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br clear="none"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br clear="none"></div></blockquote></td>
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