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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think I missed the point thinking the sphere end was part of the Hull.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What Vance is saying is like a leg tube into a sphere where he is quite correct. Sorry missed the point.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hugh</span><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>vbra676539@aol.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 8 January 2014 1:30 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> personal_submersibles@psubs.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] conical transitions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Wouldn't you figure that like an ASME nozzle--like a conning tower? <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Vance<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: brian <<a href="mailto:brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com">brian@ojaivalleybeefarm.com</a>><br>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Sent: Tue, Jan 7, 2014 4:46 pm<br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] conical transitions<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_1b3d674d-d66c-4d08-9e78-48b02c6e033b"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Would the same apply to a cylinder to sphere transition? On mine I'm planning on a 1" thick collar welded to the sphere then the cylinder to that .<br><br>brian<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: "Hugh Fulton" <<a href="mailto:hc.fulton@gmail.com">hc.fulton@gmail.com</a>><br>Sent 1/7/2014 12:45:24 PM<br>To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'" <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] conical transitions<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi All, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I have been through that problem and you have to have a good sized stiffener there of some sort. I could not afford the room as an intrusion of internal space.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>This is the solution and the angle of the additional reinforcing cone is 22.5 degrees being half the 45 degrees of the cone. This survived an FEA analysis. The end of the cone is where my window was attached.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>This was a 48” shell . Regards, Hugh<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org?">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>On Behalf Of </span></strong>Jon Wallace<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></strong> Wednesday, 8 January 2014 8:10 a.m.<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] conical transitions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Joe, ABS says stiffened cones are to have their ends bounded by two heavy stiffeners each located as close as possible to the point of cone-to-cylinder transition.<br><br>The stiffener is not located on the weld line but as close as possible to it.<br><br>Jon<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 5:30:16 AM, Joe Perkel <a href="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com"><josephperkel@yahoo.com></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div id=yiv8127102616><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 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