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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Scott,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I used 2-1/2 inch schedule 40 pipe for
the outer tube and 2" schedule 40 pipe for the inner tube. 2-1/2
inch pipe actually measures about 2-7/8 inch OD. and like wise, 2" in near 2-3/8
OD.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If I were making another one I would jump up one
size for each. 3" pipe for the outer and 2-1/2 inch for the inner.
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It's a bit more weight but would allow you to
actually push back a little if your trailer dropped in a hole while backing
in. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dan H.</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 13, 2013 12:48
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
Trailer</DIV>
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<DIV>I like the ease of making the bar, but backing up a double trailer is
pretty difficult. They way they do it in the video is on the ramp,
chalking the tires and attaching a tow strap in case it started to roll down
the ramp. I currently have been launching my sub with a tow bar similar
to this from my parents yacht club. I think the long and the short of it
is the tow bar is a better option due to ease of construction and the
ability to make steeper ramps work.</DIV>
<DIV>Any idea on the size of metal tubing used for Dans design?</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Scott Waters </DIV>
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[PSUBS-MAILIST] Trailer<BR>From: Alec Smyth <<A
href="mailto:alecsmyth@gmail.com">alecsmyth@gmail.com</A>><BR>Date: Fri,
December 13, 2013 9:40 am<BR>To: Personal Submersibles General
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hi Scott,
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<DIV>Actually Dan H's solution is telescoping as well, and I like it better
than mine, particularly if your trailer is already built as you will not
need to change it. See this video, starting at 0:38.</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="https://vimeo.com/18213498"
target=_blank>https://vimeo.com/18213498</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Alec</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:23 AM, James Frankland
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com"
target=_blank>jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Hi Scott,</DIV>
<DIV>Have a look at the 3rd picture from the bottom here of Dan H's
trailer. Im going to make a very similar one out of a scaffolding
pole. Im not going to bother making it telescopic, just carry it
strapped to the trailer bed and attach it when needed.</DIV>
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<DIV>James<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></SPAN>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 13 December 2013 15:55, swaters <SPAN
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<DIV>If you use the telescoping idea, how big of square tubing do you
need to do a 20' stretch?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Scott Waters</DIV>
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<DIV>hank pronk <<A href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca"
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<DIV><SPAN>Hi Scott,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>That is a question with no right answer. It totally
depends on your boat ramps. If I understand you, your choosing
between a extension pole between truck and trailer and a telescopic
reach. If your boat ramps have a sharp angle at the crest then a
telescopic reach may drag on the ground. I like the telescopic
reach idea because you can just pull a pin then drive ahead until the
reach is extended. Put the pin back in the new spot and your
away. If you have limited help that is the way to go.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>On Friday, December 13, 2013 8:02:30 AM,
swaters <<A href="mailto:swaters@waters-ks.com"
target=_blank>swaters@waters-ks.com</A>> wrote:<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I am working on modifying my trailer so I can launch my sub myself.
I have 2 ideas. One is the conventional idea of havinga second tounge
extension trailer so I can get the length to launch the boat. The second
is to have a long touge that replaces the hitch and the long tounge has
a hitch on it? Any reccomendations?</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Scott Waters</DIV>
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