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    Except for calm lake conditions I don't think a piggy-back generator
    is practical.  On open ocean it is not a simple task to support sub
    dive ops.  Take another look at the "psychedelic sub" video from
    Islamorada this year and note the bobbing of the sub, the divers,
    and the support boat in only 2 foot seas.  Having been in that water
    helping weight-balance Snoopy, I can't imagine trying to load/unload
    a generator (even a small one) from the top of it.<br>
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    A small semi-rigid inflatable also won't be practical as surface
    support in such conditions.  Doug's 25 foot boston whaler was being
    tossed pretty well and drifting heavily.  Who wants to be 5 miles
    out on the open ocean in a small cramped inflatable fighting wave,
    wind and current?<br>
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    Jon<br>
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              <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span
                    style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Joe
                Perkel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com"><josephperkel@yahoo.com></a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                Personal Submersibles General Discussion
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org"><personal_submersibles@psubs.org></a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:43 PM<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                [PSUBS-MAILIST] Surface Transit and power requirements<br>
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id="yiv8084797658yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1385606489934_3470" face="Calibri">I
                                have a
                                question on my mind that I’d like to
                                pose for ideas. It concerns primary
                                propulsion and the potential use of an
                                electric golf cart motor for long
                                distance surface transit say in the
                                order of 4 to 5 miles one way.</font></span></div>
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                                face="Calibri">What I am
                                thinking is the use of a motor pod ahead
                                of a moveable rudder Delta style. If
                                one were to use say a 5hp motor where
                                2-3 hp is required, wouldn’t the larger
                                motor be less taxed and run cooler, turn
                                a larger prop, <span> </span>be more
                                reliable long term, etc?</font></span></div>
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                                face="Calibri">As for power
                                drain, what if a portable Honda
                                generator could ride temporarily on deck
                                behind
                                the sail in a purpose built ventilated
                                enclosure that is quick release
                                removable.
                                Could this not be connected to a purpose
                                built electrical thru hull feeding the
                                main bus?</font></span></div>
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                                face="Calibri">My goals
                                here are simple.</font></span></div>
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id="yiv8084797658yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1385606489934_3457" face="Calibri">The
                                ability to travel to relative distant
                                dive sites with relative ease</font></span></div>
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                                  face="Calibri">2)</font><span
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                                face="Calibri">Reducing a surface
                                support
                                requirement to a small semi-rigid
                                inflatable.</font></span></div>
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                                face="Calibri">The ability to satisfy
                                power drain
                                and on site recharge capability without
                                rafting at sea.</font></span></div>
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                                face="Calibri">Eliminating the
                                complexity and costs
                                associated with inboard diesel
                                propulsion.</font></span></div>
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                                face="Calibri">Ideas /
                                thoughts?</font></span></div>
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                                face="Calibri">Joe</font></span></div>
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