<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hank,</div><div>Thanks for the vote of confidence.</div><div>I hadn't given submarines a thought till a few years ago.</div><div>I think the art background & a bit of experience with fibreglass gave</div><div>me the confidence to start the project.</div><div>I may do a bit of casting between thin shelled non printed items first.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br></div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 13/11/2013, at 2:17 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div><span>Your right, now that I think of it. I have seen broken plastic with the fibers showing. Sounds like your the one to start experimenting with this. When you were working on your art projects did you ever think you would be building kort nozzles for a submarine. </span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:56:16 PM, Alan James <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9682468186"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Hank,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>I bought a plastic pressure regulator recently that has an</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>inlet pressure of 10 bar & was made of nylon reinforced</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande",
sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>with glass fiber. so where strength is needed the commercially</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>manufactured plastic items have glass added. Of course this</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>would have been formed in an injection molder under a lot of</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>pressure, so the thickness of the molten
plastic wouldn't matter.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">You may be right that in the thin sections something other than</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">resin will work better. However possibly small amounts of milled</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">fiber in resin might be stronger than alternative materials without it.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande",
sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">With regard to bubbles in castings; you can always patch up the</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">surface later. If you leave the printed shell on they won't show.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 18.88px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv9682468186yqt1370917818" id="yiv9682468186yqt07459"><div dir="ltr"> <div class="hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:22 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Printed Kort Nozzle<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9682468186y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv9682468186"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande",
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div><span>That seems logical providing the void is large enough. I found with building electrical penetrators that if the void is to small, air pockets are created. I still think plastic is the way to go because
fiberglass resin is only strong when supported by fibers. The more fibers the stronger it is but less workable in a small void. Plastic in liquid form flows very well and has strength without fibers. I will bow to your experience though.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv9682468186yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv9682468186yqt5189931674" id="yiv9682468186yqt99999"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:09:38 PM, Alan <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9682468186y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9682468186"><div><div>Hi
Hank,</div><div>If I can convince Alec that I know what I'm talking about he might</div><div>try this on his 3d printer. I am tempted to buy a printer but it would be</div><div>a bit premature as my CAD skills aren't at a level to export to it yet.</div><div>My latest thoughts are to build larger models up with hollow sections</div><div>that have external flanges to glue them together. Then pour a mold</div><div>release in to the cavity, swirl it around, tip the excess out & allow to</div><div>dry. Possibly a gel coat could be poured in, in a similar process. Then</div><div>fill with the resin & milled fibre. Finally when the resin is set, peel</div><div>or cut off the printed shell.
Of course with a lot of things like this they</div><div>are easier said than done.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv9682468186yqt5087920271" id="yiv9682468186yqt90829"><div><br clear="none">On 13/11/2013, at 10:53 AM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div><span>sounds like you bin there done that</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv9682468186yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none">
<div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:20:18 PM, Alan <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9682468186y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9682468186"><div><div>Hi Hank,</div><div>as an artist I made a number of molds out of different materials. </div><div>Silicone was best but cost N.Z. $70- a liter.</div><div>You need to
make a supporting structure to pour the silicone in to, </div><div>then on bigger molds, an external support structure for the silicone mold. </div><div>Some times the silicone molds need to be made in two halves.</div><div>So not always easy. I thought about doing the kort nozzle with a mold,</div><div>But it would be a huge amount of work with the mold built in several sections.</div><div>There is probably not a lot on a submarine you would want to mass produce. </div><div>That's why I like the idea of this printing process for one offs.</div><div>Also making the objects hollow will save on printer time & material.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv9682468186yqt4829572344" id="yiv9682468186yqt35082"><div><br clear="none">On 13/11/2013, at 2:27 AM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div><span>How about take the printed mould and make it smaller, then use it to make a rubber mould. Then you can make as many pieces as the mold can handle. Unless you have lots of space you will have trouble with thick mixes.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv9682468186yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande",
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:43:53 PM, Alan James <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9682468186y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9682468186"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Looks good Hank,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><span>has only 0.01 shrinkage. So if shrinkage were an issue it may be an option.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><span>You could probably mix glass fiber with it to strengthen it.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><span>Here is an epoxy product that is not quite half the price & has the fiber mixed in it.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/EPOXY-RESIN-VERY-HARD-CASTING-RESIN-LIQUID-FIBERGLASS-/310112944078?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48342bffce" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.ebay.com/itm/EPOXY-RESIN-VERY-HARD-CASTING-RESIN-LIQUID-FIBERGLASS-/310112944078?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48342bffce</a><br clear="none"></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;">It is a gel like consistency so
may not suit every application. Has 0.1
shrinkage.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;">Again if I just use the resin + glass fiber, I can mix to my desired consistency.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;">Another thought that came to mind was to pour a mold release in to the printed shell</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;">& drain it out so as to leave a film on the inside. Then pour in the resin & peel off the</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;">printed outside when set. This would leave a fiberglass product that could be attached with </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;">epoxy to other structures.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;">Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"> <div class="yiv9682468186yqt6981848602" id="yiv9682468186yqt87717"><div dir="ltr"> <div class="yiv9682468186hr" style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;"></div> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Printed Kort
Nozzle<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9682468186y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv9682468186"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div><span>look at liquid plastic on e bay. It is cheap and there is one brand that cures at 180 degrees f. This is polyurethane casting resin. Nice stuff but maybe
not for kort nozzles. </span></div><div><span>Hank </span></div><div class="yiv9682468186yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"> <div class="yiv9682468186yqt9347659214" id="yiv9682468186yqt74733"><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:03:27 PM, Alan <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9682468186y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9682468186"><div><div>Hi Hank,</div><div>I'm not familiar with liquid plastic.</div><div>I use the West systems epoxy, where you have your epoxy & hardener & throw</div><div>In the other additives that give it various properties, like
hardness. </div><div>The glass fibre will give it a lot of structural strength & I can mix it in as thick or</div><div>as thin as I want depending on the section thickness / complexity of the form I want to fill.</div><div>Also price wise, mixing seems a lot cheaper than off the shelf pre-mixed items.</div><div>Alan<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div><div class="yiv9682468186yqt8034889154" id="yiv9682468186yqt85216"><div><br clear="none">On 12/11/2013, at 1:30 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><div><span>Alan,</span></div><div><span>this may be a dumb question,,, why not use liquid plastic. The stuff I use is strong and shrinks almost
nothing. It also does not generate heat when curing. This stuff is the harness of a hockey puck.</span></div><div><span>Hank</span></div><div class="yiv9682468186yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, November 11, 2013 5:26:33 PM, Alan James
<<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9682468186y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9682468186"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><div>To interested parties,</div><div>I spoke with a 3d printing expert, Richard, regarding filling hollow sections of 3d printed items with</div><div>fiber reinforced resin. He hadn't heard of it, but thought it had a lot of potential.</div><div>He suggested watching out for heat generated in the exothermic reaction, as we had already</div><div>discussed, and printing a roughened interior surface as a key <span style="font-size: 14pt;">for the epoxy, to stop the
exterior </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue,;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">delaminating.</span></div><div>I also
spoke to an epoxy tech who told me epoxy
only shrinks about 1/2% & with additives such as</div><div>milled fiber the percentile shrinkage of the whole will decrease proportionate to the additive.</div><div>So shrinkage may not be a major problem.</div><div>Will do some experimenting.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
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