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      That's pretty close...I calculated 524 feet with 125psi internal
      and suspect you could push it to 600 feet.  But that would be the
      limit so you'd want to build in a safety factor or risk failure at
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      On 11/9/2013 12:42 PM, hank pronk wrote:<br>
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        <div><span>Hi Rick,</span></div>
        <div><span>I have used 20lb propane tanks for buoyancy.  I think
            they give 35lb buoyancy and if you pressurize them to 125psi
            I am sure they could go to 600 ft.  Test one first.</span></div>
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              <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday,
                  November 9, 2013 10:16:57 AM, Land N Sea
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                        <div>Hi David,</div>
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                        <div>any idea what the two floats provide in
                          buoyancy?</div>
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                                <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 08,
                                  2013 8:25 PM</div>
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                                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
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                            <div dir="ltr">Hi Rick, here is a quote on
                              the floats I just got.  The 551 float is
                              $10.80 ea., less 10% per carton of 18. 
                              The 364 float is $6.00 ea., less 10% per
                              carton of 72. I will be ordering some of
                              each, but not enough for 18 or 72. </div>
                            <div dir="ltr">David Colombo</div>
                            <div class="yiv0711693997gmail_quote">On Nov
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                                        font-size: 10pt;">If you need
                                        some cheap buoyancy that will go
                                        to significant depths, I’d
                                        recommend fishing floats you can
                                        get here: <a
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                                        font-size: 10pt;">I guarantee
                                        you’ll find uses for them
                                        afterwards, whether it’s as
                                        emergency release buoys, mooring
                                        buoys, or whatever.</span></div>
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                                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Land N
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                                            [PSUBS-MAILIST] buoyancy</span></div>
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                                              was thinking of testing
                                              both my battery pods to
                                              600’ before I weld them to
                                              the hull so that if there
                                              are any issues with
                                              leakage I would still be
                                              able to get them on a
                                              lathe. I added two vents
                                              per pod with O rings so
                                              that I can push/suck air
                                              across the batteries while
                                              charging so there are a
                                              couple of more places for
                                              leaks to occur. I did the
                                              calks' and they weigh in
                                              at 295 LBS. each dry with
                                              a negative displacement of
                                              around 30 lbs. I was
                                              hoping that they would
                                              barley float with no
                                              batteries in them so that
                                              I could weight them just
                                              slightly negative for ease
                                              of launching and
                                              retrieving but that’s not
                                              the case. I need to come
                                              up with about 30 lbs. of
                                              positive buoyancy and
                                              don’t have any syntactic
                                              foam so I figured I could
                                              strap some 4” X 4”, on
                                              them to achieve that. This
                                              may be a dumb question but
                                              does anyone happen to know
                                              the per foot buoyancy of a
                                              4” X 4” in sea water? If
                                              not I’ll head down to the
                                              ocean and start testing.</span></div>
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                                              also mentioned the other
                                              week about my desire to
                                              omit the plate that is
                                              welded to the pressure
                                              hull and battery pod of a
                                              K-350 and was wondering if
                                              any one could comment on
                                              that.</span></div>
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