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<DIV>I was considering doing the same thing, fabricating a test pot to take one 
to failure just out of curiosity and piece of mind as well as test the rest to 
600’ before installing them but figured it might me costly to do, so kind of 
gave up the idea. Let us know your design with any pictures you may have of it 
and an idea or your cost outlay if you don’t mind and would still like to do it 
if feasible. I cringe at the idea of a port light failure on the sub when 
testing and have to reel in a real heavy object full of sea water from 600’!! 
Good luck and let us know how it went.</DIV>
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<DIV>Rick</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca 
href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hank pronk</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:49 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] window test chamber</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="RIGHT: auto">Thanks', your right, it will be much safer.  I am only 
testing to 1,000 feet, I don't think my chamber will handle a destruction 
test.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Back in my diving days our company retested a couple of deck chambers and 
they filled them completely with water leaving no air at all so if it ruptured, 
there would be little or no bang. If you are testing it to failure then I guess 
you would still need some air on the LP side so you are back to an air gap. Get 
a long hose with the valve on your end and stand outside the building and peek 
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca 
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ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hank pronk</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:45 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] window test 
chamber</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Today I built a window pressure test chamber.  When the window 
is in the chamber there is a small air space remaining.  Should that space 
be filled with water while the window is under pressure. The space is about 
250ml.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Hank<VAR id=yiv0198988423yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Since the force on the puller hub is directed outward in this 
application, the loss of material for an oversize size rod should not 
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<DIV dir=ltr>Can one drill out the puller thread and cut a new slightly larger 
one in coarse thread?</DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv0198988423gmail_quote>On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:37 AM, hank pronk 
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" shape=rect 
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  <DIV><SPAN>James,</SPAN></DIV>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><SPAN>It's 
  like the puller was made for it.  Be aware though, with the fine thread 
  it is slow to unlatch.  A real coarse thread, would be faster.  My 
  original idea was to use a scissor jack threaded rod and nut.</SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV>Hank,</DIV>
  <DIV>Looks like a nice simple solution.  Thanks for sharing that 
  one.  I've got loads of flywheel pullers and the like that could be 
  adapted.</DIV>
  <DIV>Regards</DIV>
  <DIV>James<U></U><BR clear=none></DIV>
  <DIV>On 30 October 2013 12:29, hank pronk <SPAN dir=ltr><<A 
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    style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><SPAN>The 
    hatch picture is with new sub on the project page.  </SPAN></DIV>
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    face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Checklist item:  Proper tools 
    onboard in the event a component of the hatch mechanism binds or 
    breaks.</FONT></DIV>
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    Message-----<U></U>From: James Frankland <<A 
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    Wed, Oct 30, 2013 6:51 am<U></U>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hatch 
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    <DIV>slightly lower seat!<U></U><U></U> 
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    <DIV>On 30 October 2013 11:40, Joe Perkel <SPAN dir=ltr><<A 
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            <DIV>Speaking of this hatch issue, would all this extra hardware 
            present a head butting problem? How to deal with that? A more dished 
            profile, or a slightly taller conning tower? <U></U></DIV>
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      [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hatch mechanisms <U></U><B><SPAN 
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            <DIV>Hank,</DIV>
            <DIV>How does the mechanism work?  turning the wheel obviosly 
            lifts the ends under the hatch lip.  Dont suppose you have a 
            dwg?</DIV>
            <DIV>Regards</DIV>
            <DIV>James<U></U><U></U></DIV></DIV>
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            <DIV>On 29 October 2013 18:15, hank pronk <SPAN dir=ltr><<A 
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              <DIV><SPAN>Jim,</SPAN></DIV>
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              is exactly what I did with my k350 hatch.  I didn't have tie 
              rods yet so I put adjusting bolts in the dogs.  I intent to 
              change to tie rods from go carts.  This is very easy to 
              build.  The slide system is the easiest to fabricate though 
              <VAR></VAR>and less complicated.  Gamma has 
              slides.</SPAN></DIV>
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              Frankland <<A 
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              style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, October 29, 
              2013 10:20:14 AM<U></U><B><SPAN 
              style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 
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              <DIV>Hi Jim.  I reckon i took that picture!  unless you 
              took one almost exactly the same!  Its the lanzarote sub i 
              think, i remember sending it to someone, Brent i think.</DIV>
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              <DIV>On 29 October 2013 14:38, <SPAN dir=ltr><<A 
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                <DIV><SPAN><FONT size=3>On this hatch mechanism the dogs pivot 
                instead of sliding.  The arms are threaded to adjust  
                the length turnbuckle style.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN></SPAN>
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                <DIV><SPAN><FONT size=3>For sliding dogs, beveling them where 
                they contact the latch point allows them to progressively 
                tighten as they move into place.  The latch points on the 
                tower should either be replaceable or have replaceable wear 
                plates.  That also allows you to change the thickness of 
                the wear plates in order to adjust the pressure of the hatch to 
                the landing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
                <DIV><SPAN><FONT size=3>-Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT 
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                <DIV>-----Original Message-----<U></U>From: James Frankland 
                <<A 
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                Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<A 
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                Tue, Oct 29, 2013 6:53 am<U></U>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 
                K-350 Mods<U></U><U></U> </DIV></DIV>
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                <DIV>anything like that would be ok by the looks of 
                things.  That one is good because it only requires one 
                through hull.<U></U><U></U> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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                <DIV>On 29 October 2013 11:25, Joe Perkel <SPAN dir=ltr><<A 
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                      <TD vAlign=top>James,<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>2400 
                        series, look for drawings at bottom of page for that 
                        series. The cast hatches are of no value to us but the 
                        mechanisms I believe are.<BR clear=none><BR 
                        clear=none><BR clear=none>Joe<BR clear=none><BR 
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                  <U></U><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN> 
                  </B>Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 Mods <U></U><B><SPAN 
                  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN> </B>Tue, Oct 29, 2013 
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                        <DIV>I cant see the one you mean Joe, is there a product 
                        number?<U></U><U></U></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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                        <DIV>On 29 October 2013 10:54, Joe Perkel <SPAN 
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                          <DIV><SPAN>James,</SPAN></DIV>
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                          given thought to the hatch in the past, take a look at 
                          freeman marine and look at the cam mechanism with 
                          dogs, <A 
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                          not a rotating shaft pass through the center to both 
                          sides via same <SPAN>thru-</SPAN>hull as side 
                          thrusters, with a wheel on both sides and a similar 
                          cam <SPAN><SPAN>mechanism</SPAN></SPAN> on the inside? 
                          Upward Port moved a bit forward then, and beef up the 
                          hinge for extra weight as you said.</SPAN></DIV>
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                          <DIV><SPAN>Joe</SPAN></DIV>
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                          style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, 
                          October 29, 2013 5:55 AM<BR clear=none><B><SPAN 
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                          <DIV>Jon\Joe sent a message yesterday i think 
                          regarding suggested K-350 modifications.</DIV>
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                          <DIV>I would suggest these as critical.</DIV>
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                          <DIV>1.  Hatch.  Opening from both 
                          sides.  Worst part of the design I think.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>2.  Hatch bracket.  Could do with 
                          beefing up, it feels a bit flimsy.  Probably 
                          could do with some traingular flanges welding 
on.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>3.  Variable tank mounting.  The way 
                          the tank mounts is awkward and doesnt allow any 
                          adjustment.  Much easier and better would be flat 
                          horizontal brackets welded to the battery pods that 
                          join to corresponding flat brackets on the vbt.  
                          Slotted holes on one of the planes would allow the 
                          tank to slide forward and back a little to allow that 
                          awkward vent to be fitted easily.  Also the tank 
                          could be just lifted up and on.  Very simple 
                          change.</DIV>
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                          <DIV>I think other than that, other modifications are 
                          depending on how much trouble you want to go to and 
                          cosmetics.</DIV>
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                          <DIV>For example,</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>I changed the battery pod endcap seals.  I 
                          had a real pain trying to make them as per the 
                          plans.  The way i did them in the end with 
                          flanges was a lot easier.  But probably nothing 
                          wrong with the original design.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>Skids.  I didnt like the ones shown, they 
                          would just get all the paint knocked off.  Again, 
                          probably nothing wrong with the original design.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>I made all the flanges and protrutions from 
                          stainless.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>Electrical penetrators added to the battery pods 
                          to eliminate the ones shown on the plans.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>The 2 extra downward facing viewports i put in 
                          are really good.  You could do away with the ones 
                          at the back and put them there instead if you didnt 
                          want to make too many.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>The dome of course.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>Overpressure valve.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
                          <DIV>loads of little modifications.</DIV>
                          <DIV> </DIV>
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                          <DIV>I'm at work, and i better get on with some of it, 
                          instead of daydreaming about subs!</DIV>
                          <DIV>Kind Regards</DIV>
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