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<DIV>Back in my diving days our company retested a couple of deck chambers and
they filled them completely with water leaving no air at all so if it ruptured,
there would be little or no bang. If you are testing it to failure then I guess
you would still need some air on the LP side so you are back to an air gap. Get
a long hose with the valve on your end and stand outside the building and peek
around the corner. </DIV>
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<DIV>Rick </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca
href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hank pronk</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:45 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] window test chamber</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Today I built a window
pressure test chamber. When the window is in the chamber there is a small
air space remaining. Should that space be filled with water while the
window is under pressure. The space is about 250ml.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Hank<VAR
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<DIV><SPAN>Since the force on the puller hub is directed outward in this
application, the loss of material for an oversize size rod should not
matter. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Hank<VAR id=yiv8406490988yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Can one drill out the puller thread and cut a new slightly larger
one in coarse thread?</DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv8406490988gmail_quote>On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:37 AM, hank pronk
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<DIV
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like the puller was made for it. Be aware though, with the fine thread
it is slow to unlatch. A real coarse thread, would be faster. My
original idea was to use a scissor jack threaded rod and nut.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv8406490988im><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
James Frankland <<A href="mailto:jamesf@guernseysubmarine.com" shape=rect
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<DIV>Hank,</DIV>
<DIV>Looks like a nice simple solution. Thanks for sharing that
one. I've got loads of flywheel pullers and the like that could be
adapted.</DIV>
<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>James<U></U><BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV>On 30 October 2013 12:29, hank pronk <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank
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<DIV
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hatch picture is with new sub on the project page. </SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> "<A
href="mailto:jimtoddpsub@aol.com" shape=rect rel=nofollow target=_blank
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" size=3
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Checklist item: Proper tools
onboard in the event a component of the hatch mechanism binds or
breaks.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica">-----Original
Message-----<U></U>From: James Frankland <<A
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<DIV>slightly lower seat!<U></U><U></U>
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<DIV>On 30 October 2013 11:40, Joe Perkel <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV>Speaking of this hatch issue, would all this extra hardware
present a head butting problem? How to deal with that? A more dished
profile, or a slightly taller conning tower? <U></U></DIV>
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<DIV>Hank,</DIV>
<DIV>How does the mechanism work? turning the wheel obviosly
lifts the ends under the hatch lip. Dont suppose you have a
dwg?</DIV>
<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>James<U></U><U></U></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On 29 October 2013 18:15, hank pronk <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="wlmailhtml:{DE63928F-59EB-4E82-9B80-4C7C13C26BE9}mid://00000118/"
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><SPAN>that
is exactly what I did with my k350 hatch. I didn't have tie
rods yet so I put adjusting bolts in the dogs. I intent to
change to tie rods from go carts. This is very easy to
build. The slide system is the easiest to fabricate though
<VAR></VAR>and less complicated. Gamma has
slides.</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><SPAN>Hank</SPAN></DIV>
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Frankland <<A
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<DIV>Hi Jim. I reckon i took that picture! unless you
took one almost exactly the same! Its the lanzarote sub i
think, i remember sending it to someone, Brent i think.</DIV>
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<DIV>On 29 October 2013 14:38, <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT size=3>On this hatch mechanism the dogs pivot
instead of sliding. The arms are threaded to adjust
the length turnbuckle style.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN></SPAN>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="FLOAT: none" align=left><IMG title=CIMG3887.JPG
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT size=3>For sliding dogs, beveling them where
they contact the latch point allows them to progressively
tighten as they move into place. The latch points on the
tower should either be replaceable or have replaceable wear
plates. That also allows you to change the thickness of
the wear plates in order to adjust the pressure of the hatch to
the landing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT size=3>-Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT
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<DIV>-----Original Message-----<U></U>From: James Frankland
<<A
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<DIV>anything like that would be ok by the looks of
things. That one is good because it only requires one
through hull.<U></U><U></U> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On 29 October 2013 11:25, Joe Perkel <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<TD vAlign=top>James,<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>2400
series, look for drawings at bottom of page for that
series. The cast hatches are of no value to us but the
mechanisms I believe are.<BR clear=none><BR
clear=none><BR clear=none>Joe<BR clear=none><BR
clear=none>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for
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</B>Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 Mods <U></U><B><SPAN
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<DIV>I cant see the one you mean Joe, is there a product
number?<U></U><U></U></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On 29 October 2013 10:54, Joe Perkel <SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN>James,</SPAN></DIV>
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given thought to the hatch in the past, take a look at
freeman marine and look at the cam mechanism with
dogs, <A
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not a rotating shaft pass through the center to both
sides via same <SPAN>thru-</SPAN>hull as side
thrusters, with a wheel on both sides and a similar
cam <SPAN><SPAN>mechanism</SPAN></SPAN> on the inside?
Upward Port moved a bit forward then, and beef up the
hinge for extra weight as you said.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Joe</SPAN></DIV>
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[PSUBS-MAILIST] K-350 Mods<BR
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<DIV>Jon\Joe sent a message yesterday i think
regarding suggested K-350 modifications.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would suggest these as critical.</DIV>
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<DIV>1. Hatch. Opening from both
sides. Worst part of the design I think.</DIV>
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<DIV>2. Hatch bracket. Could do with
beefing up, it feels a bit flimsy. Probably
could do with some traingular flanges welding
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<DIV>3. Variable tank mounting. The way
the tank mounts is awkward and doesnt allow any
adjustment. Much easier and better would be flat
horizontal brackets welded to the battery pods that
join to corresponding flat brackets on the vbt.
Slotted holes on one of the planes would allow the
tank to slide forward and back a little to allow that
awkward vent to be fitted easily. Also the tank
could be just lifted up and on. Very simple
change.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think other than that, other modifications are
depending on how much trouble you want to go to and
cosmetics.</DIV>
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<DIV>For example,</DIV>
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<DIV>I changed the battery pod endcap seals. I
had a real pain trying to make them as per the
plans. The way i did them in the end with
flanges was a lot easier. But probably nothing
wrong with the original design.</DIV>
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<DIV>Skids. I didnt like the ones shown, they
would just get all the paint knocked off. Again,
probably nothing wrong with the original design.</DIV>
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<DIV>I made all the flanges and protrutions from
stainless.</DIV>
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<DIV>Electrical penetrators added to the battery pods
to eliminate the ones shown on the plans.</DIV>
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<DIV>The 2 extra downward facing viewports i put in
are really good. You could do away with the ones
at the back and put them there instead if you didnt
want to make too many.</DIV>
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<DIV>The dome of course.</DIV>
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<DIV>Overpressure valve.</DIV>
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<DIV>loads of little modifications.</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm at work, and i better get on with some of it,
instead of daydreaming about subs!</DIV>
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