<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Hank,</div><div>I don't have any changes to my general design, but there are some major </div><div>Changes to how I go about fabricating the hull. I just need to do a lot of research</div><div>on it. I have a lot more information to work with for all the finer points.</div><div>As for Joe's "free spirit" comment. It's no wife & kids left home. And to tell you the</div><div>truth I'm in no hurry to get in to a relationship before my next subs finished.</div><div>Alan</div><div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 14/10/2013, at 12:13 PM, hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Alan,</span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; RIGHT: auto; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><span style="RIGHT: auto">What are your sub plans now. I am sure you have lots of ideas after your big tour.</span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; RIGHT: auto; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><span style="RIGHT: auto">Hank<var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif">
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">
<div style="RIGHT: auto" dir="ltr">
<div class="hr" style="FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; HEIGHT: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 5px 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px" readonly="true" contenteditable="false"></div><font size="2" face="Arial"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> hank pronk <<a href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 14, 2013 3:57:31 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thrusters, Air & Diesel Musings<br></font></div>
<div class="y_msg_container"><br>
<div id="yiv1502711617">
<div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: #000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">
<div><span>Alan,</span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><span>The new shaft would have a shoulder for both directions. Gamma has a water lubricated bearing that would also be a thrust bearing. Very simple. I am not planning at this time to experiment because I don't need it. I was thinking about doing though just for fun.<var id="yiv1502711617yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><span>Hank</span></div>
<div><br clear="none"></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif">
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">
<div dir="ltr">
<div id="yiv1502711617yqtfd23548" class="yiv1502711617yqt4888976016">
<div class="yiv1502711617hr" style="FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; HEIGHT: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 5px 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"></div><font size="2" face="Arial"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Alan <<a href="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 14, 2013 3:31:48 PM<br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thrusters, Air & Diesel Musings<br clear="none"></font></div></div>
<div id="yiv1502711617yqtfd82733" class="yiv1502711617yqt4888976016">
<div class="yiv1502711617y_msg_container"><br clear="none">
<div id="yiv1502711617">
<div>
<div>Hi Hank,</div>
<div>I'm still not convinced. You would also have to have some sort of bearing for reverse.</div>
<div>Are you talking about a washer as your main thrust bearing? I know the Minnkotas don't have more than a washer as a thrust bearing for reverse.</div>
<div>Are the original bearings that you are talking about using OK for sea water? </div>
<div>Technadyne talks about using a water lubricated bearing on their thrusters.</div>
<div>Obviously it works for them & their units are used on some expensive subs & ROVs, but</div>
<div>they have modified the technology for their application & the price tag for a thruster is huge.</div>
<div>Look forward to your experimentation in this field.</div>
<div>Alan</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div>
<div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br clear="none">On 14/10/2013, at 9:49 AM, hank pronk <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: #000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">
<div><span>Hi Alan,</span></div>
<div><span>The impeller that is submerged in water is fixed to a shaft that is supported by a bearing on each side. I would use the original bearings and put a thrust washer of appropriate material on the shaft shoulder. One could simply remove the impeller and drill through the pump housing right through the bearing. Then replace the original shaft with a longer shaft machined with a shoulders. The protruding shaft can be machined to accommodate the appropriate propeller. Or you could machine a nice nose cone to replace the outer pump body and use the original bearing. <var id="yiv1502711617yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><span></span> </div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><span>Hank</span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><br clear="none"></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif">
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="yiv1502711617hr" style="FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; HEIGHT: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 5px 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"></div><font size="2" face="Arial"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Alan <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 14, 2013 12:18:26 PM<br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thrusters, Air
& Diesel Musings<br clear="none"></font></div>
<div class="yiv1502711617y_msg_container"><br clear="none">
<div id="yiv1502711617">
<div>
<div>Thanks Hank,</div>
<div>I only looked at these couplings yesterday, but it seemed that the bearings would be exposed</div>
<div>to water. I could be wrong.</div>
<div>On the Technadyne site it mentions that the magnetic coupling assembly dismantles easily</div>
<div>to change the bearings, so I'm wondering if these are a weak point in the system.</div>
<div>Alan</div>
<div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div>
<div id="yiv1502711617yqt97585" class="yiv1502711617yqt9551370472">
<div><br clear="none">On 14/10/2013, at 1:21 AM, hank pronk <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: #000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff">
<div><span>Alan,</span></div>
<div><span>If you look on ebay under water pump magnetic coupled , you will see several examples even some 24v pumps. </span></div>
<div><span>Your right, nice thrusters! and the price is not bad.<var id="yiv1502711617yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div>
<div><span>Hank</span></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-STYLE: normal; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"><br clear="none"></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, new york, times, serif">
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="yiv1502711617hr" style="FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; HEIGHT: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; MARGIN: 5px 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"></div><font size="2" face="Arial"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Alan <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com">alanlindsayjames@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 14, 2013 1:29:15 AM<br clear="none"><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thrusters, Air
& Diesel Musings<br clear="none"></font></div>
<div class="yiv1502711617y_msg_container"><br clear="none">
<div id="yiv1502711617">
<div>
<div>This Indonesian site looks interesting. For example,</div>
<div>500 watt DC brushless thruster with magnetic coupling for $2500. </div>
<div>Love these sites that have prices listed.</div>
<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; LINE-HEIGHT: 19px"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://robomarine.com/thrusters.html</a></span></div>
<div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15px; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap; LINE-HEIGHT: 19px">Alan</span></div>
<div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br clear="none">On 13/10/2013, at 8:19 PM, "Hugh Fulton" <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:hc.fulton@gmail.com">hc.fulton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<style>#yiv1502711617 --
filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
#yiv1502711617 filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
#yiv1502711617
p.yiv1502711617MsoNormal, #yiv1502711617 li.yiv1502711617MsoNormal, #yiv1502711617 div.yiv1502711617MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}
#yiv1502711617 a:link, #yiv1502711617 span.yiv1502711617MsoHyperlink
{color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv1502711617 a:visited, #yiv1502711617 span.yiv1502711617MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv1502711617 p.yiv1502711617MsoAcetate, #yiv1502711617 li.yiv1502711617MsoAcetate, #yiv1502711617 div.yiv1502711617MsoAcetate
{margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}
#yiv1502711617 span.yiv1502711617EmailStyle18
{color:#1F497D;}
#yiv1502711617 span.yiv1502711617BalloonTextChar
{}
#yiv1502711617 .yiv1502711617MsoChpDefault
{font-size:10.0pt;}
#yiv1502711617 filtered {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
#yiv1502711617 div.yiv1502711617WordSection1
{}
#yiv1502711617 </style>
<div class="yiv1502711617WordSection1">
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Hi All, </span></div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Does anyone know where to get a magnetic coupling similar to the ones being used by Tecnadyne.</span></div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Regards, Hugh</span></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span></div></div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span></div>
<div>
<div style="BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm">
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Personal_Submersibles [<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alan<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 October 2013 4:25 p.m.<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thrusters, Air & Diesel Musings</span></div></div></div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal">Hi Hank,</div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal">With regard to the off the shelf, water pump, magnetic coupler.</div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal">I wonder if the thrust bearings would be a problem in our application.</div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal">On a water pump you would have maybe a belt driven pulley on the shaft </div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal">of the coupler & no need for thrust bearings. Whereas in our application with the propeller</div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal">exerting force down the shaft they are needed, & if used would be exposed to fresh or sea water unless you used some sort of seal. And sealing it would defeat the purpose for it's application in the first place, wouldn't it?</div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal">Alan</div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"> </div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sent from my iPad</div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Defeats<br clear="none">On 12/10/2013, at 4:37 PM, hank pronk <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:</div></div>
<blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">Joe,</span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">I am a lover of hydraulic anything. I am sure you can go hyd all around with no trouble. Problem is efficiency, they will rob 25%. If you want range, then its no good. If you launch from a ship and look around then it would not matter maybe. With seals the way they are now and magnetic couplers, electric still wins.</span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">I was looking on e bay and there is a magnetic coupler for a water pump that could be modified for our purposes. I like the idea but I have no real need to improve a sub that is perfect :-) Also my budget is hurtin bad.</span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">Hank</span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"> Joe Perkel <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:josephperkel@yahoo.com">josephperkel@yahoo.com</a>><br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Psubbers Mailist <<a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</a>> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 12, 2013 6:17:20 PM<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thrusters, Air & Diesel Musings</span><span style="COLOR: black"></span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div>
<div id="yiv1502711617">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">Some quick questions / observations / musing come to mind as I sit here editing videos.</span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">It looks to me like Alvin's thrusters all have a 90 deg drive arrangement like yacht bow thrusters. Some of these off the shelf units are hydraulic, but way over powered for a Delta / Gamma sized sub. There are however, lots of little hydraulic motors out there, a slew of them. Ive also seen drive components, reductions, etc, that simply were not available to George. How much trouble would it be to go hydraulic all around? </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">If DC motors must be used, in my view then the single must have improvement to the T-Rex design is the addition of a mag coupling.</span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">Alecs experience has me rethinking self sufficiency. It would be nice to charge the batteries and the HP tanks independent of a surface boat, eliminating the need to raft alongside in swells. All this convenience means a "Tours 66" type of arrangement. But Tours 66 weighed in at 10 tons.</span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">Everything is now downsized like that little AC unit I posted,.. take a look at this marine gen-set (note dimensions) <a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nextgenerationpower.com/Info/Support/3-5Specs.pdf</a> </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">Hmm, could this not be enclosed in the hull during a build, or otherwise slung longways down the hatch into a 42" hull? No prop shaft and seals, (you still get towed) but independent re-charge capability for both batteries and HP air with an equally downsized compressor!?! </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">So the question of the day is,...</span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black">Is a comfy air conditioned & self sufficient research capable PSUB for sport diving in Florida / Caribbean waters, a realistic goal at around 3.5 tons and $8-$10 lb?</span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white"><span style="COLOR: black"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>
<blockquote style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
<div>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></div></div></blockquote>
<div class="yiv1502711617MsoNormal"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8912 (20131013) __________<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.eset.com/</a></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none">__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8912 (20131013) __________<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.eset.com/</a><br clear="none"></div></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none"><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br clear="none"><span><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br clear="none"><span><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br clear="none"></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none"><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br clear="none"><span><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br clear="none"><span><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br clear="none"></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear="none">
<div id="yiv1502711617yqt76828" class="yiv1502711617yqt9551370472">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br clear="none"><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br clear="none"><span><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br clear="none"><span><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br clear="none"></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>
<div id="yqtfd37101" class="yqt4888976016">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Personal_Submersibles mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="" shape="rect" target="_blank">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Personal_Submersibles mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org">Personal_Submersibles@psubs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles">http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>