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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Yes, Proteus was named after the sub in the movie Fantastic Voyage. I thought that was the coolest movie ever when I was a kid!</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">As far as diving goes, the sub has not been underwater for five years. But from 1994 until 2008 it dived in Virginia (lake Anna many times) Maryland (Chesapeake Bay) and Pennsylvania (Bainbridge quarry and Raystown Lake). After the 2006 Psubs convention I left the sub in a marina right by the lake for quite a while. I used to leave work on Friday and drive to Raystown, get the sub from the marina, tow it to a lake side campsite, charge the batteries and replace bottles of air, then dive all weekend and go back to work on monday. It was a good time!</div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">Since then I've been building a new sub but the Proteus is also close to being done with a total overhaul and hopefully will be back in action soon<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>. My plan is to eventually dive both subs together with help from a few friends.</div>
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<DIV><SPAN>Boy I tell you, these little vignettes into life with a <SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-0>PSUB</SPAN> are driving home the realities of compromise. Thanks for the insight Greg.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>The hull diameter on Proteus is a comfy 51" and it certainly has its <SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-0><SPAN>benefits</SPAN></SPAN>. I&<SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-7 class=yiv4805280500mark>apos</SPAN>;<SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-8 class=yiv4805280500mark>ve</SPAN> had three people aboard the sub for more than an hour and it was very comfortable. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>But there are also downsides. First, It does not tow very well at all. Some days were spent towing it to get to the dive site for hours and it can use up the whole day towing instead of diving. The other problem is the amount of <SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-0><SPAN>drought<VAR id=yiv4805280500yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></SPAN>- on more than one occasion I trailered the sub to a new location just to find that the ramp <SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-9 class=yiv4805280500mark>wasn</SPAN>&<SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-10 class=yiv4805280500mark>apos</SPAN>;t deep enough to float the sub off and had to pack up and go home. Not a fun day!</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>....and given a choice between <SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-0><SPAN>lengthening</SPAN></SPAN> or widening for increased interior volume, (<I>keeping in mind <SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-1><SPAN>tow-ability</SPAN></SPAN> and <SPAN id=yiv4805280500misspell-2><SPAN>trailer-ability</SPAN></SPAN></I>)</SPAN></DIV>
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