<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Boy I tell you, these little vignettes into life with a <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0>PSUB</SPAN> are driving home the realities of compromise. Thanks for the insight Greg.</SPAN></div>
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<DIV><SPAN>The hull diameter on Proteus is a comfy 51" and it certainly has its <SPAN id=yiv8518356651misspell-0><SPAN>benefits</SPAN></SPAN>. I&<SPAN id=misspell-7 class=mark>apos</SPAN>;<SPAN id=misspell-8 class=mark>ve</SPAN> had three people aboard the sub for more than an hour and it was very comfortable. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>But there are also downsides. First, It does not tow very well at all. Some days were spent towing it to get to the dive site for hours and it can use up the whole day towing instead of diving. The other problem is the amount of <SPAN id=yiv8518356651misspell-0><SPAN>drought<VAR id=yiv8518356651yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></SPAN>- on more than one occasion I trailered the sub to a new location just to find that the ramp <SPAN id=misspell-9 class=mark>wasn</SPAN>&<SPAN id=misspell-10 class=mark>apos</SPAN>;t deep enough to float the sub off and had to pack up and go home. Not a fun day!</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>....and given a choice between <SPAN id=yiv8518356651misspell-0><SPAN>lengthening</SPAN></SPAN> or widening for increased interior volume, (<I>keeping in mind <SPAN id=yiv8518356651misspell-1><SPAN>tow-ability</SPAN></SPAN> and <SPAN id=yiv8518356651misspell-2><SPAN>trailer-ability</SPAN></SPAN></I>)</SPAN></DIV>
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