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<DIV dir=ltr>Or just turn a plastic cylindrical spacer and epoxy it in?</DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1981022830gmail_quote>On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:30 AM, hank pronk <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca">hanker_20032000@yahoo.ca</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>I currently have thre of those US seals. The problem is it is a OD of 1.5" and is to small to fit the collar. I am thinking of some how building a insert that will make the US seal fit. Other than that, I believe I am out of options. </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 75%; COLOR: #575757">Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</DIV></DIV><BR>Jon Wallace <<A href="mailto:jonw@psubs.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:jonw@psubs.org">jonw@psubs.org</A>> wrote:<BR>
<DIV><BR>Yes, that one plan in particular is pretty nasty. It's a Crane 8B3, not 883. The exact wording is as follows:<BR><BR>Crane 8B3 Seal (see Crane DWG CF-SP-44204)<BR>or US Seal PS 309 (see DWG K350-025-3)<BR><BR>The 600 required the same seal (8B3) but they are not manufactured anymore. I contacted Crane back when I removed the K600 motors because it was pretty obvious they were going to have to be replaced and they were more than willing to manufacture an exact duplicate for $1800 per seal. The replacement is an 8-1 which was going to cost $1000 per seal. That's one reason I scrapped the existing motor configuration and decided on fixed minn-kota thrusters. I purchased four 101# thrust minn-kotas for less than the price of one Crane mechanical seal.<BR><BR>You have another option with the K350 however, US Seal PS-309 (150psi) and they are cheap, between $50-100.<BR><CITE><A href=""
rel=nofollow>http://</A></CITE><CITE>www.<B>usseal</B><A href="http://mfg.com/pdfs/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>mfg.com/pdfs/</A><B>US</B>_<B>Seal</B>_Mfg_Catalog_2012.pdf</CITE><BR>I couldn't use the 309 because I needed a rating of 300+ psi but the 309 at 150psi will theoretically get you close to max dive depth.<BR><BR>Jon<BR><BR><BR>On 9/10/2013 2:33 PM, swaters wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>It is a type 883, .875 shaft seal -J CRANE Packing Co. </DIV>
<DIV>I think that is right but the kitteredge blue prints are so hard to read after being copied over and over.</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
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