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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Take your time and humm a happy tune on the way up.</SPAN></div>
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<DIV>Yea. I understand that. Is escaping in a bubble hood or escaping with a pony tank and scuba mask better? I worry about lung overexpansion with the pony tank.</DIV>
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<DIV style="COLOR: #575757; FONT-SIZE: 75%">Sent from my U.S. Cellular© Smartphone</DIV></DIV><BR>greg cottrell <jgcottrell2002@yahoo.com> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Is there some form of escape hood or suit that we could use? The navy uses these</DIV>
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<DIV id=yiv1215122913wmQuoteWrapper>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Tools and safety in a sub<BR>From: "Emile van Essen" <<A href="mailto:emile@airesearch.nl" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:emile@airesearch.nl">emile@airesearch.nl</A>><BR>Date: Thu, September 05, 2013 7:03 am<BR>To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'"<BR><<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles@psubs.org">personal_submersibles@psubs.org</A>><BR><BR>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Alec, Scott and Greg</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-GB>-I also have dive masks. For exit and also in case of a cable fire.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-GB>- If the air horn is of the type with a compressed gas canister, I regard it as dangerous. The gas is often flammable (and if not : toxic)! You can operate an air horn with mid-pressure air from the sub.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-GB>- An old style BCD jacket with own small bottle an additional dive mask (picture) combines a life jacket with a escape hood.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-GB>-If your LSS is okay for 72 Hours, bring also drinking water , food, playing cards and whiskey..</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Van:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Personal_Submersibles [<A href="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org">mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces@psubs.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Namens </SPAN></B>Smyth, Alec<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Verzonden:</SPAN></B> donderdag 5 september 2013 15:08<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Aan:</SPAN></B> Personal Submersibles General Discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Onderwerp:</SPAN></B> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Tools and safety in a sub</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1215122913msolistparagraph><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US><SPAN>-<FONT size=1 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>Tiny air horn (probably useless, but it’s a Coast Guard requirement and you want them happy)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>I’ve seen a lot of people put dive masks in their subs too. Gary Boucher used to take along a jar with a rag in a saturated solution of baking soda. The alkaline rag was for wiping down skin in the case of battery explosion. I carried that too originally, but dropped it when I went to AGM batteries. I know a K350 has batteries outside the cabin, but I mention it in case you have a hotel battery inside.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>Once you have your list, decide what actually needs to go in the sub and what can stay on the boat. I use two big plastic storage boxes, one labeled Surface and the other Sub. Items like the detergent don’t need to go in the sub, you just put that stuff on at the start of the day. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=2 face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>With respect to lack of space in a submarine, what else is necessary? </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" class=yiv1215122913MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=2 face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>Scott Waters</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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