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<div><font style="background-color: transparent;">I don't blame them. IEDs unnerve me, too. Just the idea unnerves me. OIF/OEF?</font></div>
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<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top">"...They used to say that you could pick a Vietnam vet out of a crowd of non-vets just by the thousand yard stare. (We tend to keep an eye out for ambush, and never got over it)...."<br>
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I'm seeing a whole lot of PTSD at the VA from both OIF & OEF. (A whole lot). A different kind of ambush, you can't see the IED coming. It's leaving them quite unnerved. <br>
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<div><font style="background-color: transparent;">They used to say that you could pick a Vietnam vet out of a crowd of non-vets just by the thousand yard stare. (We tend to keep an eye out for ambush, and never got over it). A psub vet might have a recognizable ten yard stare (considering visibility limitations). Could that be recognizable at a distance?</font></div>
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<div><span>What are the odds you would pick up a guy heading to a sub convention?</span></div>
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<div>This is a good idea! </div>
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<div>The very first convention, in 2003, was held by a lakeside in Oregon. As I drove through what seemed to me a fairly remote wilderness, I saw a bearded back-packer walking on the shoulder. I would not normally stop and pick up a stranger, but the desolation of the surroundings moved me to do so. I asked where he was going and the response was startling both for it's content as for the thick Scottish accent... "I'm going to a submarine convention!" That was sufficient, I've counted Ian a good friend ever since. </div>
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<div>I was driving to the 2006 convention when I reached a T intersection and stopped for a red light. While I was stopped a convoy of three or four submarines went past, one of them towed by a school bus. There was no doubt which way I had to turn at that intersection.</div>
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<div>Recently I've become a fan of a free GPS/navigation phone app called Waze. The main attraction is that it routes you based on current traffic speeds, not just the shortest route, and it helps that it alerts you to speed cameras, police on the shoulder, accidents, etc. Among other things, it allows you to define groups. You can see members of your groups moving along the map, although they also have an option to "go invisible". You can exchange messages with them. I just created a group called PSUBS. I'd really encourage everyone to try Waze because it's just so neat, but also if you want to join the PSUBS group, we'll see each other converging on Islamorada. I wish I'd had that when I blew a trailer tire on my way to last years convention, and found the spare didn't fit.</div>
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<div class="yiv639030318gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:20 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow">JimToddPsub@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="3">The 2013 Psubs Convention at Islamorada is now just a month away. Some of you will be flying into either Miami International (MIA) or Fort Lauderdale (FLL).</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Miami to Islamorada: 75 miles, 1 hour 35 minutes per Mapquest</font></div>
<div><font size="3">Fort Lauderdale: 100 miles, 2 hours 4 minutes per Mapquest</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">To facilitate sharing rides and rental cars, if you will email your info to <a rel="nofollow">JimToddPsub@aol.com</a> OFF LIST, I'll share the info OFF LIST with others who are flying in. I have made my flight reservations and reserved a rental car. Below is a list of info that would be helpful:</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Date of arrival</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Which airport (kind of important, eh?)</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Do you receive texts on your cell or not?</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Same info needed regarding departure at the end of the convention. I will confirm receipt of each email. If I don't reply by the end of that day, that means I didn't get it.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">Looking forward to a few days in the Keys.</font></div>
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