[PSUBS-MAILIST] Titan submersible missing at Titanic site

Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Sat Jun 24 09:49:39 EDT 2023


 Hank, how do you find the passengers to warn them?  The waiver passengers signed identified the submarine as "an experimental submersible vessel that has not been approved or certified by any regulatory body and could result in physical injury, disability, emotional trauma, or death."  (see link below)  That's a pretty honest and open summary by Ocean Gate itself of what you're up against as a passenger.  If that didn't give the passengers pause what else could an "expert" have told them?  These were highly intelligent successful businessmen who could understand what "experimental" and "certified" meant relative to a submarine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7RwftWrAeo

When trying to understand people's behavior we have to look at things as they were in the moment, not in the now with the benefit of retrospect.  For example, the MTS letter was penned in 2018.  In the subsequent five years time Ocean Gate had raised $18 million for Titan development and performed multiple dives on the Titanic successfully.  Up until June 18, 2023 anyone could have looked at MTS vs Ocean Gate and walked away believing the warnings were unwarranted.
I think the history and events leading up to the Titan loss is very complex and includes everything from investors, finances, performance, and deadlines; to egos.
Jon

    On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 05:22:16 AM EDT, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:  
 
 Marc, I do agree completely that if you want to get in a barrel and go over Niagara Falls, you should be allowed.  This is different because the paying passengers were Likely not told about the concerns and warnings from industry experts.  That is where my beef with experts lies, they could have done more to insure the passengers knew.  A strongly worded letter to the builder is a let down.  Hank 


  
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