From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Mon Feb 1 20:00:09 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 17:00:09 -0800 Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] junction box Message-ID: <20210201170009.FCBE3921@m0117460.ppops.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_1554.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 56474 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_1555.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 64568 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Tue Feb 2 03:43:58 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 08:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] junction box In-Reply-To: References: <20210201170009.FCBE3921@m0117460.ppops.net> Message-ID: <1877291714.1461062.1612255438692@mail.yahoo.com> Brian, that looks like it was a fun project to make.Hank On Monday, February 1, 2021, 11:33:59 PM MST, Gregory Snyder via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Awesome!! On Feb 1, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles wrote: ?Hi All ,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Here is my newly completed junction box which I will use to get all manner of wires outside the sub.? 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Rick On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:24 AM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles < personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > I'm going to have the aluminum part anodized, hopefully it will hold up > the the salt water, if not I can always replace it in a few years. > > --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote: > > From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > To: Gregory Snyder via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] junction box > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 08:43:58 +0000 (UTC) > > Brian, that looks like it was a fun project to make. > Hank > > On Monday, February 1, 2021, 11:33:59 PM MST, Gregory Snyder via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Awesome!! > > On Feb 1, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > > ? > Hi All , > Here is my newly completed junction box which I will use > to get all manner of wires outside the sub. 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Rick On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 8:34 AM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles < personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > Yes , My lathe and mill, submariners can do anything ! > > --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote: > > From: Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] junction box > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 07:33:07 -1000 > > Brian, did you make that yourself? > > Rick > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:24 AM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > > I'm going to have the aluminum part anodized, hopefully it will hold up > the the salt water, if not I can always replace it in a few years. > > --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote: > > From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > To: Gregory Snyder via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] junction box > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 08:43:58 +0000 (UTC) > > Brian, that looks like it was a fun project to make. > Hank > > On Monday, February 1, 2021, 11:33:59 PM MST, Gregory Snyder via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Awesome!! > > On Feb 1, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > > ? > Hi All , > Here is my newly completed junction box which I will use > to get all manner of wires outside the sub. 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Rick On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:24 AM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles wrote: I'm going to have the aluminum part anodized, hopefully it will hold up the the salt water, if not I can always replace it in a few years.? --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote: From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles To: Gregory Snyder via Personal_Submersibles Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] junction box Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 08:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Brian, that looks like it was a fun project to make.Hank On Monday, February 1, 2021, 11:33:59 PM MST, Gregory Snyder via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Awesome!! On Feb 1, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles wrote: ?Hi All ,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Here is my newly completed junction box which I will use to get all manner of wires outside the sub.? 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URL: From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Tue Feb 2 16:35:20 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (james hughes via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 21:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] junction box In-Reply-To: <20210202103346.5EA25089@m0117567.ppops.net> References: <20210202103346.5EA25089@m0117567.ppops.net> Message-ID: <232131298.1210259.1612301720290@mail.yahoo.com> Sweet! On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 10:35:22 AM PST, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Yes , My lathe and mill, submariners can do anything !? --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote: From: Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] junction box Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 07:33:07 -1000 Brian, did you make that yourself?? Rick On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:24 AM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles wrote: I'm going to have the aluminum part anodized, hopefully it will hold up the the salt water, if not I can always replace it in a few years.? --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote: From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles To: Gregory Snyder via Personal_Submersibles Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] junction box Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 08:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Brian, that looks like it was a fun project to make.Hank On Monday, February 1, 2021, 11:33:59 PM MST, Gregory Snyder via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Awesome!! On Feb 1, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles wrote: ?Hi All ,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Here is my newly completed junction box which I will use to get all manner of wires outside the sub.? 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URL: From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Sat Feb 6 13:24:53 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 18:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator In-Reply-To: <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <620308677.3289053.1612635893674@mail.yahoo.com> Alan, we have to use a speed control with 12V because they are too fast, or at least fast enough. ?They are also plenty powerful, even at half speed.Hank On Friday, February 5, 2021, 07:21:18 PM MST, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Just had a look at the BOM for the Psub manipulator & it specifies a 12V Lenco actuator. Notice that they have a 24V version as well. Wouldn't this be better if it was available? 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URL: From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Sat Feb 6 13:53:41 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (Alan James via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 18:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator In-Reply-To: <620308677.3289053.1612635893674@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374@mail.yahoo.com> <620308677.3289053.1612635893674@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1910422662.3313400.1612637621502@mail.yahoo.com> Hank,?in hindsight the 24V motor would be taking up the same space & probably the same power as the 12V but drawing half the amps.?It may be a preferred voltage for some people, so is an alternative.?I am making enquiries on a waterproof actuator of the same power but NZ90-+freight new.?Cheers Alan On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 07:26:50 AM GMT+13, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Alan, we have to use a speed control with 12V because they are too fast, or at least fast enough. ?They are also plenty powerful, even at half speed.Hank On Friday, February 5, 2021, 07:21:18 PM MST, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Just had a look at the BOM for the Psub manipulator & it specifies a 12V Lenco actuator. Notice that they have a 24V version as well. Wouldn't this be better if it was available? Twice the power or speed.Alan?_______________________________________________ Personal_Submersibles mailing list Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles _______________________________________________ Personal_Submersibles mailing list Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Sat Feb 6 14:54:31 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 09:54:31 -1000 Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator In-Reply-To: <1910422662.3313400.1612637621502@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374@mail.yahoo.com> <620308677.3289053.1612635893674@mail.yahoo.com> <1910422662.3313400.1612637621502@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hank Alan had mentioned the 24V option which makes sense but he also mentioned being twice the power and speed but if it was twice the speed, I am wondering if there would be a problem with the claw closing faster than you would want? Rick On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 8:54 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles < personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > Hank, > in hindsight the 24V motor would be taking up the same space & probably > the same power as the 12V but drawing half the amps. > It may be a preferred voltage for some people, so is an alternative. > I am making enquiries on a waterproof actuator of the same power but NZ90- > +freight new. > Cheers Alan > > On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 07:26:50 AM GMT+13, hank pronk via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Alan, we have to use a speed control with 12V because they are too fast, > or at least fast enough. They are also plenty powerful, even at half speed. > Hank > > On Friday, February 5, 2021, 07:21:18 PM MST, Alan James via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Just had a look at the BOM for the Psub manipulator & it specifies a 12V > Lenco actuator. Notice that they have a 24V version as well. Wouldn't this > be better if it was available? 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URL: From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Sat Feb 6 15:26:05 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (Alan James via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 20:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator In-Reply-To: References: <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374@mail.yahoo.com> <620308677.3289053.1612635893674@mail.yahoo.com> <1910422662.3313400.1612637621502@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <847061678.279403.1612643165830@mail.yahoo.com> Rick,?I think it will be the same power, but justthinner windings and half the amps of the 12V, as it has to fit in to the same envelope.?But it may pay to look at this and adjust the BOM in case the 24V option is more suitable for someone.?Cheers Alan On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 08:56:22 AM GMT+13, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Hank Alan had mentioned the 24V option which makes sense but he also mentioned being twice the power and speed but if it was twice the speed, I am wondering if there would be a problem with the claw closing faster than you would want?? Rick On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 8:54 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Hank,?in hindsight the 24V motor would be taking up the same space & probably the same power as the 12V but drawing half the amps.?It may be a preferred voltage for some people, so is an alternative.?I am making enquiries on a waterproof actuator of the same power but NZ90-+freight new.?Cheers Alan On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 07:26:50 AM GMT+13, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Alan, we have to use a speed control with 12V because they are too fast, or at least fast enough.? They are also plenty powerful, even at half speed.Hank On Friday, February 5, 2021, 07:21:18 PM MST, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Just had a look at the BOM for the Psub manipulator & it specifies a 12V Lenco actuator. Notice that they have a 24V version as well. Wouldn't this be better if it was available? Twice the power or speed.Alan?_______________________________________________ Personal_Submersibles mailing list Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles _______________________________________________ Personal_Submersibles mailing list Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles _______________________________________________ Personal_Submersibles mailing list Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles _______________________________________________ Personal_Submersibles mailing list Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Sat Feb 6 15:56:38 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 10:56:38 -1000 Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator In-Reply-To: <847061678.279403.1612643165830@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374@mail.yahoo.com> <620308677.3289053.1612635893674@mail.yahoo.com> <1910422662.3313400.1612637621502@mail.yahoo.com> <847061678.279403.1612643165830@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, if it sped up the claw, Hank would not be able to pick up an egg or banana any more! Rick On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles < personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > Rick, > I think it will be the same power, but just > thinner windings and half the amps of the 12V, as it has to fit in to the > same envelope. > But it may pay to look at this and adjust the BOM in case the 24V option > is more suitable for someone. > Cheers Alan > > On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 08:56:22 AM GMT+13, Rick Patton via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Hank > > Alan had mentioned the 24V option which makes sense but he also mentioned > being twice the power and speed but if it was twice the speed, I am > wondering if there would be a problem with the claw closing faster than you > would want? > > Rick > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 8:54 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > > Hank, > in hindsight the 24V motor would be taking up the same space & probably > the same power as the 12V but drawing half the amps. > It may be a preferred voltage for some people, so is an alternative. > I am making enquiries on a waterproof actuator of the same power but NZ90- > +freight new. > Cheers Alan > > On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 07:26:50 AM GMT+13, hank pronk via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Alan, we have to use a speed control with 12V because they are too fast, > or at least fast enough. They are also plenty powerful, even at half speed. > Hank > > On Friday, February 5, 2021, 07:21:18 PM MST, Alan James via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Just had a look at the BOM for the Psub manipulator & it specifies a 12V > Lenco actuator. Notice that they have a 24V version as well. Wouldn't this > be better if it was available? 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URL: From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Sat Feb 6 16:12:35 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (Alan James via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 21:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Manipulator In-Reply-To: References: <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1470928534.3159061.1612578059374@mail.yahoo.com> <620308677.3289053.1612635893674@mail.yahoo.com> <1910422662.3313400.1612637621502@mail.yahoo.com> <847061678.279403.1612643165830@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1682672357.582054.1612645955056@mail.yahoo.com> Rick,?that would be a disaster because that's all he can do during a Canadian winter!?Alan On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 09:58:49 AM GMT+13, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Yes, if it sped up the claw, Hank would not be able to pick up an egg or banana any more!? Rick On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Rick,?I think it will be the same power, but justthinner windings and half the amps of the 12V, as it has to fit in to the same envelope.?But it may pay to look at this and adjust the BOM in case the 24V option is more suitable for someone.?Cheers Alan On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 08:56:22 AM GMT+13, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Hank Alan had mentioned the 24V option which makes sense but he also mentioned being twice the power and speed but if it was twice the speed, I am wondering if there would be a problem with the claw closing faster than you would want?? Rick On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 8:54 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Hank,?in hindsight the 24V motor would be taking up the same space & probably the same power as the 12V but drawing half the amps.?It may be a preferred voltage for some people, so is an alternative.?I am making enquiries on a waterproof actuator of the same power but NZ90-+freight new.?Cheers Alan On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 07:26:50 AM GMT+13, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Alan, we have to use a speed control with 12V because they are too fast, or at least fast enough.? They are also plenty powerful, even at half speed.Hank On Friday, February 5, 2021, 07:21:18 PM MST, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Just had a look at the BOM for the Psub manipulator & it specifies a 12V Lenco actuator. Notice that they have a 24V version as well. Wouldn't this be better if it was available? 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Rick On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 11:13 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles < personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > Rick, > that would be a disaster because that's all he can do during a Canadian > winter! > Alan > > On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 09:58:49 AM GMT+13, Rick Patton via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Yes, if it sped up the claw, Hank would not be able to pick up an egg or > banana any more! > > Rick > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > > Rick, > I think it will be the same power, but just > thinner windings and half the amps of the 12V, as it has to fit in to the > same envelope. > But it may pay to look at this and adjust the BOM in case the 24V option > is more suitable for someone. > Cheers Alan > > On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 08:56:22 AM GMT+13, Rick Patton via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Hank > > Alan had mentioned the 24V option which makes sense but he also mentioned > being twice the power and speed but if it was twice the speed, I am > wondering if there would be a problem with the claw closing faster than you > would want? > > Rick > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 8:54 AM Alan James via Personal_Submersibles < > personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote: > > Hank, > in hindsight the 24V motor would be taking up the same space & probably > the same power as the 12V but drawing half the amps. > It may be a preferred voltage for some people, so is an alternative. > I am making enquiries on a waterproof actuator of the same power but NZ90- > +freight new. > Cheers Alan > > On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 07:26:50 AM GMT+13, hank pronk via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Alan, we have to use a speed control with 12V because they are too fast, > or at least fast enough. They are also plenty powerful, even at half speed. > Hank > > On Friday, February 5, 2021, 07:21:18 PM MST, Alan James via > Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > > Just had a look at the BOM for the Psub manipulator & it specifies a 12V > Lenco actuator. Notice that they have a 24V version as well. Wouldn't this > be better if it was available? 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Below 6000ft with a bottle filled to 3000psi, nothing would come out of it anyway.?Lots of different first stage designs; maybe find a diagram of your particular model and study it to be sure!?What are you thinking of using it for??Alan On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 10:49:55 AM GMT+13, via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Hi, ? Anyone knows till how deep you can use a first stage (Apeks) regulator? ? Emile D.L. van Essen ? _______________________________________________ Personal_Submersibles mailing list Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From personal_submersibles at psubs.org Tue Feb 16 17:43:07 2021 From: personal_submersibles at psubs.org (Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 22:43:07 +0000 Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] first stage regulator In-Reply-To: <002901d704ad$679ffaf0$36dff0d0$@airesearch.nl> References: <002901d704ad$679ffaf0$36dff0d0$@airesearch.nl> Message-ID: Structurally, the regulator bodies are designed for a maximum HP supply to ambient dP of 3500 psi, if used with a DIN connection. Design intermediate pressure (HP supply to LP / ambient delivery dP) is ~150 psi. I don't know if there is any overbalancing inherent to the Apeks designs. Performance will depend on the gases used, as flow will be density dependent, but I doubt that you'll have any problems at respiratory flow rates <200 lpm. Sean -------- Original Message -------- On Feb. 16, 2021, 14:48, via Personal_Submersibles wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone knows till how deep you can use a first stage (Apeks) regulator? > > Emile D.L. van Essen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But as they say - where there?s smoke there is a smoke machine! Cheers Keith > On 22/02/2021, at 12:53 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles wrote: > > Keith Gordon, > Can you tell me anything about the German submarine that is supposed to be off the coast below Glinks Gully near Dargaville thanks. Saw an old news item on it but haven't been able to find out much more. > Lost your email address. > Cheers Alan > _______________________________________________ > Personal_Submersibles mailing list > Personal_Submersibles at psubs.org > http://www.psubs.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/personal_submersibles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Over the years various people have stated near end of the war a U-boat was taken over by crew and ended up purposely ?sunk off the Dargaville coast but so far no evidence to back this up. I have been involved with people searching for it - many local tales about it being close to shore - its a good story but unfortunately not proven- so far . But as they say - where there?s smoke there is a smoke machine!CheersKeith On 22/02/2021, at 12:53 PM, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles wrote: Keith Gordon,?Can you tell me anything about the German submarine that is supposed to be off the coast below Glinks Gully near Dargaville thanks. 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