[PSUBS-MAILIST] Life boats

Rich T via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Mon Aug 10 18:36:51 EDT 2020


I am assuming that no, it is not possible, considering the entire purpose
of a lifeboat is to remain afloat under extreme circumstances.

On Monday, August 10, 2020, Rich T <rbernard0011 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian, thank you for your correspondence. Regarding the matter at hand, I
> am less of an engineer and more of a general consultant/emissary in the
> venture I described. The group of engineers is mostly comprised of STEM
> students at Berkeley, and I can certainly arrange for a trailer to
> transport the vessels to their storage and work facilities there. If the
> oil company is willing to provide its own trailers, even better. However, I
> failed to realize the vessel currently has no ability to submerge. Based on
> your current knowledge of the vessels, do you think they can be converted
> into submarines if a ballast tank system and whatnot are installed?
>
> On Sunday, August 9, 2020, Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but you wouldn't have to get the distance exactly right. Just into a
>> range.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> On Aug. 9, 2020, 21:06, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think you would still need some sort of brake on the reel with the
>> counter weight method, otherwise the counter weight would just keep
>> traveling back to the sub.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
>>
>> From: "Sean T. Stevenson via Personal_Submersibles" <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Life boats
>> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:46:10 +0000
>>
>> I don't know if this is possible in a sub-deployed embodiment, but when I
>> run a downline buoy for diving, I hang a snatch block under the buoy, and
>> size the line to be somewhat longer than the water depth, with a
>> counterweight on one end (typically, anchor weight is 60 lbs, and
>> counterweight is 15 lbs). This acts to pull the buoy to be vertically in
>> line with the anchor, while still allowing for tidal height change and sea
>> state.
>>
>> With a deployed buoy, you could do something similar at the buoy end, so
>> that once the buoy reached surface any additional deployed line would be
>> pulled down by a counterweight and keep the buoy in position. You can also
>> shackle the counterweight back to the main line, so that it follows it
>> down, and you have the entire length of that line as the compensation
>> range, and only need to reel in line when the counterweight hits the sub,
>> which you could verify visually if the land point was covered by a viewport.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> On Aug. 9, 2020, 09:21, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Great video !    Do you just go up as far as you can on the beach and
>> then wait for the tide to go out ?
>>
>> I'm curious as to how other sub mad men handle the float buoy.  It seems
>> you would want it just at the surface with not a lot of slack in the line.
>>  I was thinking to have a "brake" on the reel so I could stop it when it
>> gets to the surface and to stop it free wheeling.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
>>
>> From: Rich T via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Life boats
>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 00:00:27 -0400
>>
>> Yes. I have enormous use for them. I am located in
>> Los Angeles as well. May I come view the vessel in person? I am
>> organizing a group of engineers in California who are interested in
>> tinkering with burgeoning stealth technology for submarines, which the
>> government may actually pay for if patents are secured. A vessel like this
>> would be perfect for such experiments.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 8, 2020, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>> good to hear you are still alive!
>> Thanks for correcting my "American" I am sure I must say things that
>> are misinterpreted all the time. I do that with women!
>> My other thought was to make a large ambient sub out of them. I am sure
>> Tim Novak would be thinking " underwater habitat".
>> Alan
>>
>> On 9/08/2020, at 2:56 PM, Jim via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Alan,
>> You were the  first person who came to mind when I saw this thread. I
>> knew you would come up with some inventive purpose for it and probably
>> wonder if there was a way you could get your hands on it.
>>  “Caravan” has a very different meaning in the other parts of the
>> English-speaking world than it does in the United States. The term we would
>> use is “camper.”  Caravan brings to mind a string of camels.
>> Jim T.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Alan via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hey Brian,
>> just stick it on a trailer & use it as a caravan.
>> Have seen an Australian floating caravan before!
>> Alan
>>
>> On 9/08/2020, at 8:54 AM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,             A friend of mine who works in the Oil industry
>> offshore is offering me two of these lifeboats for free.  Anyone have a use
>> for them?
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
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