[PSUBS-MAILIST] Silicone

Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Wed Apr 24 22:03:10 EDT 2019


Thanks Brian,
There is a Sherwin Williams on the Island which is not far away so they can
probably barge it the their outlet here if Oahu guy's don't have it. I
bought my sailboat down in Long Beach and shipped her up I-5 to Seattle.
Rick

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 3:36 PM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Rick,
>                 I was just down a the Long Beach ProLine paint Co.   (
> owned by Sherman Williams)  I was asking about shipping to Hawaii.  They
> were telling me that there is a Sherman Williams in Honolulu that does a
> lot of business with the Navy.  ( I believe there is some sort of Navy base
> there, Pearl something)  Anyway , the epoxy barrier product that you want
> is called Seaguard 5000 HS epoxy  , then there is the coating that goes
> over that which is a polyurethane , but I'm not sure what that would be as
> far as a Sherman Williams product name, but the ProLine name is 4800
> polyurethane .  So Basically everything comes out of their Reno warehouse
> and would go to Oakland or LA to get shipped over, which would take a
> couple of weeks if they didn't have it in stock.  They could get the
> Proline Poly 4800 for you unless there is an equivalent Sherman Williams
> paint, but make sure that it is a fully immersible grade .  They can't ship
> by air.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
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> From: Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
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> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Silicone
> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 07:46:23 -1000
>
> Alan
> There is only one boat yard on the Island and all they do is provide slips
> with no water or power for your boat and dry storage for smaller boats.
> They lease out space for vendors like a machine shop and such but pretty
> primitive. I'll see if I can find a vendor that can do a professional job
> of painting but not holding my breath. This is a third world setting but at
> least it's nice weather and water!
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:49 PM Alan via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Rick,
> Are there any boat yards near you that might do it.
> Even if they just sand blast it & prime it.
> I presume you won't be keeping your sub permanently in the water so no
> Need for anti fouling.
> Alan
>
> On 27/03/2019, at 7:00 PM, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks Brian, I'll ring them up tomorrow. This is part of the sub building
> process that I am NOT looking forward to. I hate painting!
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:52 PM Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Rick,  I get my paint from an outfit in Long Beach - Pro-Line paint.
> It's a two paint process, the undercoat is epoxy barrier coat ( two part)
> and the final coat is a linear polyurethane ( also two parts)
>
> Brian
>
> --- personal_submersibles at psubs.org wrote:
>
> From: Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Silicone
> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:09:53 -1000
>
> Thanks guys
> Dan H said he used an epoxy paint of some sort but they discontinued it
> because it caused cancer, I think he said emron or something but I thought
> the gist of the group here used an epoxy paint but when I mentioned that
> the other day at our Sherwin-Williams, they were adamant that it shouldn't
> be used in a semi underwater application, but like Jon says, I don't know
> any that are.
> Jon, let me know if you can locate what you were talking about and David,
> go ahead and send me your contact in Cal.
> Thanks again
> Just had another pretty big earthquake but no Lava this time
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:50 PM Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> Ditto what David Colombo wrote.  I wish I could remember how the Sherwin
> Williams Rep steered us back in 2012 (I think it was) but there were
> certain products that they had which he highly recommended although none of
> them were in any way associated for underwater application.  I'm going to
> have to search through archives to see if I can pick up any info.
>
> Absent that, epoxy based paint is used by most that I am aware of.  I know
> Alec Smyth just used a roller for SNOOPY which provided a matt orange-peel
> type finish instead of a high gloss sheen, but like he said, it was wicked
> easy to patch a scratch or scrape that inevitably shows up due to bumping
> into things, etc.  I am likely going to follow that lead on the K-600.
>
> Jon
>
>
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>
> Thanks Ian
> I know there are a lot of boats out there that are painted so was
> surprised to not get any feedback.
> Sherwin-Williams here on the big island said that they don't have anything
> that will work for an underwater application.
> Rick
>
>
>
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