[PSUBS-MAILIST] Lurker finally surfacing!

Alan via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Mon Aug 27 16:59:56 EDT 2018


Hi Jim,
thanks for the introduction, and welcome along.
Can't help you with the seals as my motors  are external.
I have been making my own thrusters & have contacted seal reps &
even emailed the manufacturer for advice on a non standard mounting
method I was proposing. Normally seals are used on pumps to keep
fluid that is under pressure in rather than out as in our case.
I did a quick calculation on your pressure vessel & it came out as a 600ft
crush depth. Don't take that as gospel, but it may be worth looking at it
in depth if you haven't already. If the 600ft is right you could dive to 300ft
with that hull! For all the work that goes in to building a submarine you may
find that it is only a relatively small amount of extra effort & cost to give
you an extra 200 ft of diving capability. I would think about this first before
choosing a seal as the added pressure may have bearing on your choice.
All the best,
Alan (New Zealand)

> On 27/08/2018, at 4:11 PM, james hughes via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> 
> Good evening All,
> 
> My name is Jim and I’ve been a lurker on this list for many years now.  Long before now I’ve intended on making my presents known to the whole group (I’ve contacted several members off list over the years) but have always seemed too busy to do so… Well, now I’ve pretty much got all the time in the world and am using much of it to finish building my sub…
> 
> Here’s a little about me: I’m 56.  Retired navy Chief (I was a corpsman).  Just finished earning a BS in marine biology thanks to the GI bill.  Now I’m finally finishing the behemoth that’s been sitting in my brother’s backyard for nearly 15 years now…
> 
> My boat started as a modified K250 (for which I have blueprints) but morphed into something of a money pit since the day I saw and bought a “real bargain” (a giant pressure vessel) at a wrecking yard.  The pressure vessel that I’m using for my hull is 12.5’ long, 5’ in diameter and 5/8” thick.  It would have cost about $15K new, but I got it for $300!  My boat will be named “Pipedream” when it’s done because my original idea called for the hull section being made from a piece of pipe.  I don’t plan on going deeper than 100 feet and will likely stay above 60 feet most of the time.
> 
> One of the reasons I’ve finally surfaced on this list is to ask for help.  Does anyone have a working plan / blueprint of a through hull connection for a drive shaft?  Or can someone direct me to one?  I’ve got a 10 horsepower motor for propulsion that I plan on using to turn a 1 inch diameter, 5 foot long shaft with a 12” propeller.  I’ve read all I can find about mechanical seals and watched all the youtube videos on them that I could find…. Can anyone recommend specific mechanical seals and bearings (manufacturer / source or catalog number)?  My nephew in Texas works at a machine shop and assured me that with the equipment he has, that he can make anything I ask for if I can only get him a basic blueprint or plans for a part with the seals and bearings that I need inside.  I need to wrap up the issue with the through hull ASAP as the guy who has done most of my welding is moving next month and I don’t want to get someone new to put that part in (the welder I have is VERY good at what he does).  I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this particular issue.  Thanks in advance for any advice or help!
> God bless, Jim
> 
> 
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