From a.erikse at gmail.com  Fri Aug  2 06:12:30 2013
From: a.erikse at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Eriksen?=)
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 12:12:30 +0200
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub Complete
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Congratulations James! Thank you for sharing your build with us.
Good luck with the testdive, and hope you will share it too.

Regards Andr?


2013/7/31 James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>

> Thanks All.
>
> >What a beauty! Looks like you've actually shortened the pressure hull,
>
> Hi Marc,
> No, the pressure hull is as per the plans.  Appart from the dome and the 2
> extra front viewports.
>
> >but extended the forward main ballast tank and put ports in it - for
> >upward vision for occupants looking out through the front dome?
>
> Yes exactly.  I wish i had made the forward tank viewports a bit bigger,
> but I cannot change them now.  View from the dome is pretty good as it is.
> Regards
> James
> ________________________________________
> From: Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org> on
> behalf of Marc de Piolenc <piolenc at archivale.com>
> Sent: 31 July 2013 03:12
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub Complete
>
> What a beauty! Looks like you've actually shortened the pressure hull,
> but extended the forward main ballast tank and put ports in it - for
> upward vision for occupants looking out through the front dome?
>
> Anyway, a whole lot sexier than the Kittredge boats.
>
> Can't wait to see the first dive video...
>
> Best,
> Marc
>
> On 7/30/2013 11:16 PM, Smyth, Alec wrote:
> > Wow, nice job. That front dome is what every Kittredge owner always
> wanted!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> > Alec
> >
> > *From:*Personal_Submersibles
> > [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] *On Behalf Of *James
> > Frankland
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:40 AM
> > *To:* personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> > *Subject:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub Complete
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> > I finished my sub!  I have to prepare the trailer and organise the crane
> > etc, but the boat itself is done.  I hope to have her in the water in a
> > couple of weeks.
> >
> > http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/Extended_files/Page28938.htm
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
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From Alec.Smyth at covisint.com  Fri Aug  2 09:15:06 2013
From: Alec.Smyth at covisint.com (Smyth, Alec)
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 13:15:06 +0000
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Trolling motor props
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Snoopy is getting a new stern thruster, a Minnkota 55. The trolling motor manufacturers' props all emphasize weed-cutting. I found an after-market prop maker (http://www.kipawapropellers.com<http://www.kipawapropellers.com/>) that claims to be a little more efficient than the stock props, but still emphasizes weed-cutting. Is anyone aware of an after-market trolling motor prop that might be optimized for open water use (i.e. efficiency) instead of weed-cutting?


Thanks,

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From Alec.Smyth at covisint.com  Fri Aug  2 18:13:03 2013
From: Alec.Smyth at covisint.com (Smyth, Alec)
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 22:13:03 +0000
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
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Just a heads up, today I booked the Auto Train from Virginia to Florida to get Snoopy to the convention.  I'll be arriving September 30th in order to get a couple days' open water dives in ahead of the organized activities, and during the convention proper Snoopy will be available as a "rides sub" in more protected waters. I understand there are another four of five subs that could potentially make it. There's bound to be some that can't, for logistical or schedule reasons, but let's really try to all make it!


Best,

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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Fri Aug  2 18:25:14 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters)
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 17:25:14 -0500
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
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Excellent!!!
-Scott Waters




Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Smartphone"Smyth, Alec" <Alec.Smyth at covisint.com> wrote:Just a heads up, today I booked the Auto Train from Virginia to Florida to get Snoopy to the convention.? I?ll be arriving September 30th in order to get a couple days? open water dives in ahead of the organized activities, and during the convention proper Snoopy will be available as a ?rides sub? in more protected waters. I understand there are another four of five subs that could potentially make it. There?s bound to be some that can?t, for logistical or schedule reasons, but let?s really try to all make it!
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From josephperkel at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  2 18:54:10 2013
From: josephperkel at yahoo.com (Joe Perkel)
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 15:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
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Wow "Auto Train",..something I haven't heard in years. Sure does confirm the continuing existence of the snow bird species! :)

Looking forward to Snoopy!

Joe




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To: "PSUBS mailing list (personal_submersibles at psubs.org)" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
 


 
Just a heads up, today I booked the Auto Train from Virginia to Florida to get Snoopy to the convention.? I?ll be arriving September 30th in order to get a couple days? open water dives
in ahead of the organized activities, and during the convention proper Snoopy will be available as a ?rides sub? in more protected waters. I understand there are another four of five subs that could potentially make it. There?s bound to be some that can?t,
for logistical or schedule reasons, but let?s really try to all make it!
?
?
Best,

Alec
?
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From josephperkel at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  2 18:54:54 2013
From: josephperkel at yahoo.com (Joe Perkel)
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 15:54:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
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....and Alec! :)




________________________________
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To: "PSUBS mailing list (personal_submersibles at psubs.org)" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
 


 
Just a heads up, today I booked the Auto Train from Virginia to Florida to get Snoopy to the convention.? I?ll be arriving September 30th in order to get a couple days? open water dives
in ahead of the organized activities, and during the convention proper Snoopy will be available as a ?rides sub? in more protected waters. I understand there are another four of five subs that could potentially make it. There?s bound to be some that can?t,
for logistical or schedule reasons, but let?s really try to all make it!
?
?
Best,

Alec
?
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From alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  3 04:48:45 2013
From: alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com (Alan James)
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 01:48:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
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And me also Joe.
Am coming to convention via Europe & catching the train down with Alec,
arriving the afternoon of the 30th. I'm really looking forward to meeting up
with some psub folk.
Am also keen to catch up with any European Psubers on my way through.
Will be travelling round Europe from 24th August to 22 Sept.
"Carsten" where do you leave the keys to the Euronaut?
Regards Alan




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 From: Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
 


....and Alec! :)



________________________________
 From: "Smyth, Alec" <Alec.Smyth at covisint.com>
To: "PSUBS mailing list (personal_submersibles at psubs.org)" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
 


 
Just a heads up, today I booked the Auto Train from Virginia to Florida to get Snoopy to the convention.? I?ll be arriving September 30th in order to get a couple days? open water dives
in ahead of the organized activities, and during the convention proper Snoopy will be available as a ?rides sub? in more protected waters. I understand there are another four of five subs that could potentially make it. There?s bound to be some that can?t,
for logistical or schedule reasons, but let?s really try to all make it!
?
?
Best,

Alec
?
?
?
? 
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From josephperkel at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  3 17:14:30 2013
From: josephperkel at yahoo.com (Joe Perkel)
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:14:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
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Nice trip Alan, quite diverse! 

My wife and I want to do a train or river cruise through Europe in the relatively near future. 
Now would be good timing for trains, crews will put complacency to rest for awhile.

Joe




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To: Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com>; Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
 


And me also Joe.
Am coming to convention via Europe & catching the train down with Alec,
arriving the afternoon of the 30th. I'm really looking forward to meeting up
with some psub folk.
Am also keen to catch up with any European Psubers on my way through.
Will be travelling round Europe from 24th August to 22 Sept.
"Carsten" where do you leave the keys to the Euronaut?
Regards Alan




________________________________
 From: Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
 


....and Alec! :)



________________________________
 From: "Smyth, Alec" <Alec.Smyth at covisint.com>
To: "PSUBS mailing list (personal_submersibles at psubs.org)" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
 


 
Just a heads up, today I booked the Auto Train from Virginia to Florida to get Snoopy to the convention.? I?ll be arriving September 30th in order to get a couple days? open water dives
in ahead of the organized activities, and during the convention proper Snoopy will be available as a ?rides sub? in more protected waters. I understand there are another four of five subs that could potentially make it. There?s bound to be some that can?t,
for logistical or schedule reasons, but let?s really try to all make it!
?
?
Best,

Alec
?
?
?
? 
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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Sat Aug  3 18:54:22 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:54:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
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Does anyone know what percent of corrosion loss is built into the design of a submarine.
Hank

From: Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com>
To: Psubbers Mailist <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 3:14:30 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention



Nice trip Alan, quite diverse! 

My wife and I want to do a train or river cruise through Europe in the relatively near future. 
Now would be good timing for trains, crews will put complacency to rest for awhile.

Joe



From: Alan James <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com>
To: Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com>; Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention



And me also Joe.
Am coming to convention via Europe & catching the train down with Alec,
arriving the afternoon of the 30th. I'm really looking forward to meeting up
with some psub folk.
Am also keen to catch up with any European Psubers on my way through.
Will be travelling round Europe from 24th August to 22 Sept.
"Carsten" where do you leave the keys to the Euronaut?
Regards Alan



From: Joe Perkel <josephperkel at yahoo.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention



....and Alec! :)


From: "Smyth, Alec" <Alec.Smyth at covisint.com>
To: "PSUBS mailing list (personal_submersibles at psubs.org)" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention



Just a heads up, today I booked the Auto Train from Virginia to Florida to get Snoopy to the convention.? I?ll be arriving September 30th in order to get a couple days? open water dives in ahead of the organized activities, and during the convention proper Snoopy will be available as a ?rides sub? in more protected waters. I understand there are another four of five subs that could potentially make it. There?s bound to be some that can?t, for logistical or schedule reasons, but let?s really try to all make it!


Best,

Alec
?



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From searov at xtra.co.nz  Sun Aug  4 00:13:47 2013
From: searov at xtra.co.nz (Keith Gordon)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 16:13:47 +1200
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] C
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Sent from my iPhone

From groplias2 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  4 18:13:17 2013
From: groplias2 at yahoo.com (Juergen Guerrero Kommritz)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:13:17 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub Complete
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Hello James
Beautifull sub. Congratulations. Have a lot of fun.
Juergen




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An: "personal_submersibles at psubs.org" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Gesendet: 3:40 Dienstag, 30.Juli 2013
Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub Complete
 


 
Hi All,

I finished my sub!? I have to prepare the trailer and organise the crane etc, but the boat itself is done.? I hope to have her in the water in a couple of weeks.
?
http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/Extended_files/Page28938.htm
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James
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From jonw at psubs.org  Mon Aug  5 00:00:14 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:00:14 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snoopy is confirmed at the convention
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We do need a firm commitment for the number of submarines that will be 
attending the convention and participating in public display, either 
Friday (4th) or Saturday (5th).  We know that Scott Waters is bringing 
his K350 and Alec is bringing Snoopy.  If anyone else is definitely 
committing to bringing a submarine (working or static) please contact 
Scott Waters or myself immediately.

Cliff, are going to be towing R300 to the keys and participating in 
public display?
Vance, the K350?

Jon


On 8/2/2013 6:13 PM, Smyth, Alec wrote:
> Just a heads up, today I booked the Auto Train from Virginia to 
> Florida to get Snoopy to the convention.  I'll be arriving September 
> 30^th in order to get a couple days' open water dives in ahead of the 
> organized activities, and during the convention proper Snoopy will be 
> available as a "rides sub" in more protected waters. I understand 
> there are another four of five subs that could potentially make it. 
> There's bound to be some that can't, for logistical or schedule 
> reasons, but let's really try to all make it!
>

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From siblack10000 at googlemail.com  Mon Aug  5 05:21:56 2013
From: siblack10000 at googlemail.com (simon blackburn)
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:21:56 +0100
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub Complete
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Well done James

Attention to detail is amazing.

I look forward to seeing you on the One Show.  It's only a matter of time.

Regards Simon


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:51 AM, James Frankland <
jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com> wrote:

> Thanks All.
>
> >What a beauty! Looks like you've actually shortened the pressure hull,
>
> Hi Marc,
> No, the pressure hull is as per the plans.  Appart from the dome and the 2
> extra front viewports.
>
> >but extended the forward main ballast tank and put ports in it - for
> >upward vision for occupants looking out through the front dome?
>
> Yes exactly.  I wish i had made the forward tank viewports a bit bigger,
> but I cannot change them now.  View from the dome is pretty good as it is.
> Regards
> James
> ________________________________________
> From: Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org> on
> behalf of Marc de Piolenc <piolenc at archivale.com>
> Sent: 31 July 2013 03:12
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub Complete
>
> What a beauty! Looks like you've actually shortened the pressure hull,
> but extended the forward main ballast tank and put ports in it - for
> upward vision for occupants looking out through the front dome?
>
> Anyway, a whole lot sexier than the Kittredge boats.
>
> Can't wait to see the first dive video...
>
> Best,
> Marc
>
> On 7/30/2013 11:16 PM, Smyth, Alec wrote:
> > Wow, nice job. That front dome is what every Kittredge owner always
> wanted!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> > Alec
> >
> > *From:*Personal_Submersibles
> > [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] *On Behalf Of *James
> > Frankland
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:40 AM
> > *To:* personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> > *Subject:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] Sub Complete
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> > I finished my sub!  I have to prepare the trailer and organise the crane
> > etc, but the boat itself is done.  I hope to have her in the water in a
> > couple of weeks.
> >
> > http://www.guernseysubmarine.com/Extended_files/Page28938.htm
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
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From emile at airesearch.nl  Fri Aug  9 17:20:20 2013
From: emile at airesearch.nl (Emile van Essen)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 23:20:20 +0200
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAZwsRHrMgVEqOdYPpMxKVucKAAAAQAAAAiP9bk5TmSEKh66/QmWSxqgEAAAAA@airesearch.nl>

Hi,

 

The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in operation and all work FINE!!

The is made a nice UW video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs

I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.

 

The sub stayed in the water for 1 month.  The only problem is some galvanic
corrosion caused by the battery charger or underground power cable.

 

Best regards, Emile van Essen

 

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From vbra676539 at aol.com  Fri Aug  9 19:15:18 2013
From: vbra676539 at aol.com (vbra676539 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:15:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
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Looks great, Emile.
Vance



-----Original Message-----
From: Emile van Essen <emile at airesearch.nl>
To: 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Sent: Fri, Aug 9, 2013 5:21 pm
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video



Hi,
 
The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months inoperation and all work FINE!!
The is made a nice UW video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs
I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.
 
The sub stayed in the water for 1 month.  Theonly problem is some galvanic corrosion caused by the battery charger orunderground power cable.
 
Best regards, Emile van Essen
 


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From alecsmyth at gmail.com  Fri Aug  9 19:27:35 2013
From: alecsmyth at gmail.com (Alec Smyth)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:27:35 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
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Beautiful sub, great video!

Alec


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Emile van Essen <emile at airesearch.nl> wrote:

>  Hi,****
>
> ** **
>
> The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in operation and all work FINE!!**
> **
>
> The is made a nice UW video:****
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs****
>
> I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.****
>
> ** **
>
> The sub stayed in the water for 1 month.  The only problem is some
> galvanic corrosion caused by the battery charger or underground power cable.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Best regards, Emile van Essen****
>
> ** **
>
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From greg at snyderemail.com  Fri Aug  9 20:00:56 2013
From: greg at snyderemail.com (greg at snyderemail.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:00:56 -0500
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
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Wow!
Awesome boat!!

Greg

Beautiful sub, great video!

Alec


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Emile van Essen <emile at airesearch.nl>
wrote:

>  Hi,****
>
> ** **
>
> The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in operation and all work
> FINE!!**
> **
>
> The is made a nice UW video:****
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs****
>
> I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.****
>
> ** **
>
> The sub stayed in the water for 1 month.  The only problem is some
> galvanic corrosion caused by the battery charger or underground power
> cable.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Best regards, Emile van Essen****
>
> ** **
>
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From alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  9 20:53:00 2013
From: alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com (Alan James)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 17:53:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
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Thanks Emile,
those new vertical thrusters look powerful.
Very nice.
Alan


________________________________
 From: Emile van Essen <emile at airesearch.nl>
To: 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
 


 
Hi,
?
The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in
operation and all work FINE!!
The is made a nice UW video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs
I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.
?
The sub stayed in the water for 1 month. ?The
only problem is some galvanic corrosion caused by the battery charger or
underground power cable.
?
Best regards, Emile van Essen
?
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From groplias2 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 10 18:50:32 2013
From: groplias2 at yahoo.com (Juergen Guerrero Kommritz)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 23:50:32 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
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Hello Emile
Great video and a very nice sub. Well done
Best wishes
Juergen





________________________________
 Von: Emile van Essen <emile at airesearch.nl>
An: 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Gesendet: 16:20 Freitag, 9.August 2013
Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
 


 
Hi,
?
The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in
operation and all work FINE!!
The is made a nice UW video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs
I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.
?
The sub stayed in the water for 1 month. ?The
only problem is some galvanic corrosion caused by the battery charger or
underground power cable.
?
Best regards, Emile van Essen
?
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From jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com  Mon Aug 12 09:17:28 2013
From: jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com (James Frankland)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:17:28 +0000
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
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Hi Emile,

Great boat and great video.  Thanks for sharing.
Whats the red light we can see reflecting on the wreck at about 1:00 minute?
Kind Regards
James

________________________________
From: Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org> on behalf of Emile van Essen <emile at airesearch.nl>
Sent: 09 August 2013 22:20
To: 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video

Hi,

The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in operation and all work FINE!!
The is made a nice UW video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs
I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.

The sub stayed in the water for 1 month.  The only problem is some galvanic corrosion caused by the battery charger or underground power cable.

Best regards, Emile van Essen

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From landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net  Mon Aug 12 16:02:44 2013
From: landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net (Land N Sea)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 10:02:44 -1000
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
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great video. It?s always nice to see the fruits of our labor finally succeeding!

Rick

From: Emile van Essen 
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 11:20 AM
To: 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion' 
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video

Hi,

 

The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in operation and all work FINE!!

The is made a nice UW video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs

I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.

 

The sub stayed in the water for 1 month.  The only problem is some galvanic corrosion caused by the battery charger or underground power cable.

 

Best regards, Emile van Essen

 



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From MerlinSub at t-online.de  Mon Aug 12 16:38:00 2013
From: MerlinSub at t-online.de ( )
Date: 12 Aug 2013 20:38 GMT
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The only right way to clean a Psubs propeller
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Hi Folks, some pictures of our last weekend with the Euronaut. 

We sail on a big sailing boat event called "Hansesail" and found that
the 
sideruder, the propeller and the thusters are not proper working
anymore. 

Marine growing and shells all over the hull were the problem. We found a
soultion.. 

We found also that the sub is stable in that situation - and by the way
a way to anchor at 20 feet without using the anchor.. 
(On the picture the sub did not touch the bottom or anything else, just
hold by three ropes in place.)

Have fun.. vbr Carsten 

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2807.JPG

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2826.JPG

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2855.JPG

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2889.JPG

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2894.JPG
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From pilotfishp at gmail.com  Mon Aug 12 16:47:30 2013
From: pilotfishp at gmail.com (Antoine Delafargue)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:47:30 +0100
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The only right way to clean a Psubs propeller
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nice!

you flooded the diving chamber and forward ballast??

regards,
Antoine


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:38 PM, <MerlinSub at t-online.de> wrote:

> **
>
> Hi Folks, some pictures of our last weekend with the Euronaut.
>
> We sail on a big sailing boat event called "Hansesail" and found that the
> sideruder, the propeller and the thusters are not proper working anymore.
>
> Marine growing and shells all over the hull were the problem. We found a
> soultion..
>
> We found also that the sub is stable in that situation - and by the way a
> way to anchor at 20 feet without using the anchor..
> (On the picture the sub did not touch the bottom or anything else, just
> hold by three ropes in place.)
>
> Have fun.. vbr Carsten
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2807.JPG
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2826.JPG
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2855.JPG
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2889.JPG
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2894.JPG
>
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From MerlinSub at t-online.de  Mon Aug 12 16:56:00 2013
From: MerlinSub at t-online.de ( )
Date: 12 Aug 2013 20:56 GMT
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The only right way to clean a Psubs propeller
In-Reply-To: <CAOajxnEStsPKYci=O+6qd6C8Z9T+UNxFOcFUf5bCktG8BFHaJQ@mail.gmail.com>
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No, only the bow ballast tank. 
And 4-5 crew went forward to diverchamber and centrale.   

With bow tank and diver chamber flooded the boat will dive.. 

vbr Carsten

"Antoine Delafargue" <pilotfishp at gmail.com> schrieb: 
nice!


you flooded the diving chamber and forward ballast??


regards,
Antoine



On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:38 PM, <MerlinSub at t-online.de> wrote:

 
Hi Folks, some pictures of our last weekend with the Euronaut. 

We sail on a big sailing boat event called "Hansesail" and found that
the 
sideruder, the propeller and the thusters are not proper working
anymore. 

Marine growing and shells all over the hull were the problem. We found a
soultion.. 

We found also that the sub is stable in that situation - and by the way
a way to anchor at 20 feet without using the anchor.. 
(On the picture the sub did not touch the bottom or anything else, just
hold by three ropes in place.)

Have fun.. vbr Carsten 

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2807.JPG

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2826.JPG

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2855.JPG

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2889.JPG

http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2894.JPG


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Dipl.Ing.Schiffbau @ Meerestechnik
Heinrich Reck Str.12A
18211 Admannshagen

0172 8464 420
WWW.Euronaut.org
Carsten at euronaut.org
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From jonw at psubs.org  Mon Aug 12 22:45:17 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:45:17 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The only right way to clean a Psubs propeller
In-Reply-To: <1V8yu4-3QkLzM0@fwd11.t-online.de>
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Very ingenious Carsten.  Is that an ABS approved procedure?  :)

I'm curious about the "Beware of Propeller" warning on the stern. Why 
did you choose english?

Jon



On 8/12/2013 4:38 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de wrote:
> E-Mail Software 6.0
> Hi Folks, some pictures of our last weekend with the Euronaut.
>
> We sail on a big sailing boat event called "Hansesail" and found that the
> sideruder, the propeller and the thusters are not proper working anymore.
>
> Marine growing and shells all over the hull were the problem. We found 
> a soultion..
>
> We found also that the sub is stable in that situation - and by the 
> way a way to anchor at 20 feet without using the anchor..
> (On the picture the sub did not touch the bottom or anything else, 
> just hold by three ropes in place.)
>
> Have fun.. vbr Carsten
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2807.JPG
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2826.JPG
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2855.JPG
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2889.JPG
>
> http://www.euronaut.org/content/gfx/operational/IMG_2894.JPG
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From josephperkel at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 12 23:26:53 2013
From: josephperkel at yahoo.com (Joe Perkel)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:26:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The only right way to clean a Psubs propeller
In-Reply-To: <52099DBD.4050108@psubs.org>
Message-ID: <1376364413.73476.YahooMailIosMobile@web160506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

English is the official language of aviation worldwide as per ICAO agreement. My question as per Jon's remark, is there a similar maritime international accord?<br/><br/>Joe<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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From MerlinSub at t-online.de  Tue Aug 13 00:12:00 2013
From: MerlinSub at t-online.de ( )
Date: 13 Aug 2013 04:12 GMT
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The only right way to clean a Psubs propeller
In-Reply-To: <1376364413.73476.YahooMailIosMobile@web160506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <1376364413.73476.YahooMailIosMobile@web160506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1V95zM-1WtFNA0@fwd18.t-online.de>

Hi Joe and John , 

look at this picture from the "Hansesail":

http://www.panoramio.com/photo_explorer#view=photo&position=0&with_photo_id=804920&order=date&user=82603&tag=hansesail

A russian sailer, two scandinavian, a dutch and so on. English was
choosen - because all Germans 
can speak and read it but all the ships from the other nation can not
read German. 

Also the Euronaut try to travel to other countries. 

And it is shorter / cheaper to make: Beware of Propeller (17)  =
Vorsicht vor dem Propeller (23)       :-)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3226/2776810772_9d135566e1_z.jpg

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From jonw at psubs.org  Tue Aug 13 06:29:24 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 06:29:24 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The only right way to clean a Psubs propeller
In-Reply-To: <1V95zM-1WtFNA0@fwd18.t-online.de>
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Thanks for the explanation Carsten.  Regarding the photo from Hansesail, 
now we know what it would look like heading into Los Angeles if everyone 
commuted by boat instead of by car....love the photo.

Jon


On 8/13/2013 12:12 AM, MerlinSub at t-online.de wrote:
>
> Hi Joe and John ,
>
> look at this picture from the "Hansesail":
>
> http://www.panoramio.com/photo_explorer#view=photo&position=0&with_photo_id=804920&order=date&user=82603&tag=hansesail
>
> A russian sailer, two scandinavian, a dutch and so on. English was 
> choosen - because all Germans
> can speak and read it but all the ships from the other nation can not 
> read German.
>
> Also the Euronaut try to travel to other countries.
>
> And it is shorter / cheaper to make: Beware of Propeller (17)  = 
> Vorsicht vor dem Propeller (23)       :-)
>
> http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3226/2776810772_9d135566e1_z.jpg
>
> vbr Carsten
>
>
>
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From josephperkel at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 13 07:42:47 2013
From: josephperkel at yahoo.com (Joe Perkel)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 04:42:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The only right way to clean a Psubs propeller
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Spectacular images!

I like the small ship with the Tan Bark sails,..I want one! :)

Thanks Carsten!

Joe




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 From: "MerlinSub at t-online.de" <MerlinSub at t-online.de>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The only right way to clean a Psubs propeller
 


Hi Joe and John , 

look at this picture from the 
"Hansesail":

http://www.panoramio.com/photo_explorer#view=photo&position=0&with_photo_id=804920&order=date&user=82603&tag=hansesail

A

russian sailer, two scandinavian, a dutch and so on. English was choosen
- 
because all Germans 
can speak and read it but all the ships from the
other 
nation can not read German. 

Also the Euronaut try to travel to
other 
countries. 

And it is shorter / cheaper to make: Beware 
of?Propeller?(17)? = Vorsicht vor dem Propeller 
(23)?????? :-)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3226/2776810772_9d135566e1_z.jpg

vbr

Carsten?
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From jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com  Wed Aug 14 07:19:33 2013
From: jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com (James Frankland)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:19:33 +0100
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
Message-ID: <CAHpB=UBeH1-RsEQ9g3H4cyTMnzCko1AjPn2N=xoWM8peYP+ePw@mail.gmail.com>

Ive changed mail servers.  can someone please reply.
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From greg at snyderemail.com  Wed Aug 14 07:39:35 2013
From: greg at snyderemail.com (Gregory Snyder)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 06:39:35 -0500
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
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Received!
Good luck
Greg

-----Original Message-----
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From vbra676539 at aol.com  Wed Aug 14 08:00:18 2013
From: vbra676539 at aol.com (vbra676539 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:00:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
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hi james
vance



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:20 am
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Ive changed mail servers.  can someone please reply.
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From jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com  Wed Aug 14 08:46:52 2013
From: jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com (James Frankland)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:46:52 +0100
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
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ok thanks guys.

On 14 August 2013 13:00, <vbra676539 at aol.com> wrote:

> hi james
> vance
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
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> member-forum <member-forum at psubs.org>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 7:20 am
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From piolenc at archivale.com  Wed Aug 14 09:52:34 2013
From: piolenc at archivale.com (Marc de Piolenc)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:52:34 +0800
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
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Reading you loud and clear.
Marc

On 8/14/2013 7:19 PM, James Frankland wrote:
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From groplias2 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 14 09:59:55 2013
From: groplias2 at yahoo.com (Juergen Guerrero Kommritz)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:59:55 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
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hello here
Juergen




________________________________
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Gesendet: 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
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Ive changed mail servers.? can someone please reply.
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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Wed Aug 14 13:57:23 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:57:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
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The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.? Today I expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the front of the sub.? I have posted the first? picture of the progress.
Hank

From: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail



hello here
Juergen


Von: James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
An: personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org 
Gesendet: 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
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From landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net  Wed Aug 14 14:14:08 2013
From: landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net (Land N Sea)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:14:08 -1000
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
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Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?

rick

From: hank pronk 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
To: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz ; Personal Submersibles General Discussion 
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration

The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.  Today I expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the front of the sub.  I have posted the first  picture of the progress.
Hank

From: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail


hello here
Juergen


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Gesendet: 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
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Ive changed mail servers.  can someone please reply.
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From emile at airesearch.nl  Wed Aug 14 15:01:36 2013
From: emile at airesearch.nl (Emile van Essen)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:01:36 +0200
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
In-Reply-To: <5c01e68791574b1ebb6c91091ebcceff@AM3PR02MB017.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAZwsRHrMgVEqOdYPpMxKVucKAAAAQAAAArdBapsH7v0qKfv+4v2dS3QEAAAAA@airesearch.nl>

James,

 

That is the recording light of a camera.

Operational lesson: always ask guests to tape the red light and turn of the
flash light..

 

Emile

 

  _____  

Van: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
Namens James Frankland
Verzonden: maandag 12 augustus 2013 15:17
Aan: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
Onderwerp: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video

 

Hi Emile,


Great boat and great video.  Thanks for sharing.  

Whats the red light we can see reflecting on the wreck at about 1:00 minute?


Kind Regards
James

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From: Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org> on
behalf of Emile van Essen <emile at airesearch.nl>
Sent: 09 August 2013 22:20
To: 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video 

 

Hi,

 

The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in operation and all work FINE!!

The is made a nice UW video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs

I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.

 

The sub stayed in the water for 1 month.  The only problem is some galvanic
corrosion caused by the battery charger or underground power cable.

 

Best regards, Emile van Essen

 

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From MerlinSub at t-online.de  Wed Aug 14 15:51:00 2013
From: MerlinSub at t-online.de ( )
Date: 14 Aug 2013 19:51 GMT
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
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Let them the red light.. looks like a pretty expensive laser distance
measuring device.. :-)
I had assume it is a kind of alarm for CO2 or so..   

vbr Carsten

"Emile van Essen" <emile at airesearch.nl> schrieb: 
James,

That is the recording light of a camera.
Operational lesson: always ask guests to tape the red light and turn of
the flash light..

Emile




Van: Personal_Submersibles
[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] Namens James Frankland
Verzonden: maandag 12 augustus 2013 15:17
Aan: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
Onderwerp: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video

Hi Emile,

Great boat and great video.  Thanks for sharing.  
Whats the red light we can see reflecting on the wreck at about 1:00
minute?  
Kind Regards
James



From: Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org> on
behalf of Emile van Essen <emile at airesearch.nl>
Sent: 09 August 2013 22:20
To: 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video 

Hi,

The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in operation and all work
FINE!!
The is made a nice UW video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs
I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.

The sub stayed in the water for 1 month.  The only problem is some
galvanic corrosion caused by the battery charger or underground power
cable.

Best regards, Emile van Essen

 

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From spiritofcalypso at gmail.com  Wed Aug 14 15:56:25 2013
From: spiritofcalypso at gmail.com (Douglas Suhr)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:56:25 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
In-Reply-To: <68B5A3B487A844DDA755BE93FC27DD35@LandNSeaPC>
References: <CAHpB=UBeH1-RsEQ9g3H4cyTMnzCko1AjPn2N=xoWM8peYP+ePw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1376488795.23909.YahooMailNeo@web133005.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
 <1376503043.5221.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <68B5A3B487A844DDA755BE93FC27DD35@LandNSeaPC>
Message-ID: <CAOGJjn+RULEGuWT=FUmdXPKqSBSh_RcGYxAE2XjCQ1Eg0pz7rg@mail.gmail.com>

Just checked out the photo you posted Hank. Very nice! Good luck with the
restoration, I can't wait to see what you do with her. ~ Douglas S.


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Land N Sea <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net>wrote:

>   Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any
> photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?
>
> rick
>
>  *From:* hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
> *To:* Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com> ; Personal
> Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>
>  The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.  Today I
> expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the
> front of the sub.  I have posted the first  picture of the progress.
> Hank
>
>   *From:* Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>
>  hello here
> Juergen
>
>   *Von:* James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
> *An:* personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org
> *Gesendet:* 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
> *Betreff:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>
>  Ive changed mail servers.  can someone please reply.
> Thanks
> James
>
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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Wed Aug 14 17:58:00 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:58:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
In-Reply-To: <CAOGJjn+RULEGuWT=FUmdXPKqSBSh_RcGYxAE2XjCQ1Eg0pz7rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHpB=UBeH1-RsEQ9g3H4cyTMnzCko1AjPn2N=xoWM8peYP+ePw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1376488795.23909.YahooMailNeo@web133005.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
 <1376503043.5221.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <68B5A3B487A844DDA755BE93FC27DD35@LandNSeaPC>
 <CAOGJjn+RULEGuWT=FUmdXPKqSBSh_RcGYxAE2XjCQ1Eg0pz7rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1376517480.67355.YahooMailNeo@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Douglas
Hank

From: Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:56:25 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration



Just checked out the photo you posted Hank. Very nice! Good luck with the restoration, I can't wait to see what you do with her. ~ Douglas S.?



On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Land N Sea <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?
>
>rick
>
>From: hank pronk 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
>To: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz ; Personal Submersibles General Discussion 
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.? Today I expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the front of the sub.? I have posted the first? picture of the progress.
>Hank
>
>From: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>
>
>
>hello here
>Juergen
>
>
>Von: James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
>An: personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org 
>Gesendet: 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
>Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>
>
>
>Ive changed mail servers.? can someone please reply.
>Thanks
>James
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From jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com  Thu Aug 15 04:55:28 2013
From: jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com (James Frankland)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:55:28 +0100
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video
In-Reply-To: <1V9h7k-1pF7ke0@fwd18.t-online.de>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAZwsRHrMgVEqOdYPpMxKVucKAAAAQAAAArdBapsH7v0qKfv+4v2dS3QEAAAAA@airesearch.nl>
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Yes, thats what i thought it was!

On 14 August 2013 20:51, <MerlinSub at t-online.de> wrote:

> **
> Let them the red light.. looks like a pretty expensive laser distance
> measuring device.. :-)
> I had assume it is a kind of alarm for CO2 or so..
>
> vbr Carsten
>
> "Emile van Essen" <emile at airesearch.nl> schrieb:
>
>  James,****
>
> ****
>
> That is the recording light of a camera.****
>
> Operational lesson: always ask guests to tape the red light and turn of
> the flash light..****
>
> ****
>
> Emile****
>
> ****
>  ------------------------------
>
> *Van:* Personal_Submersibles [mailto:
> personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] *Namens *James Frankland
> *Verzonden:* maandag 12 augustus 2013 15:17
> *Aan:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video****
>
> ****
>
> Hi Emile,****
>
>
> Great boat and great video.  Thanks for sharing.  ****
>
> Whats the red light we can see reflecting on the wreck at about 1:00
> minute?  ****
>
> Kind Regards
> James****
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org>
> on behalf of Emile van Essen <emile at airesearch.nl>
> *Sent:* 09 August 2013 22:20
> *To:* 'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'
> *Subject:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nordicsub "Drebbel" video ****
>
> ****
>
> Hi,****
>
> ****
>
> The Nordicsub "Drebbel" is now 2 months in operation and all work FINE!!**
> **
>
> The is made a nice UW video:****
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2975eaBmYs****
>
> I spend some 25 hours underwater the last month.****
>
> ****
>
> The sub stayed in the water for 1 month.  The only problem is some
> galvanic corrosion caused by the battery charger or underground power cable.
> ****
>
> ****
>
> Best regards, Emile van Essen****
>
> ****
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Carsten Standfu?
> Dipl.Ing.Schiffbau @ Meerestechnik
> Heinrich Reck Str.12A
> 18211 Admannshagen
>
> 0172 8464 420
> WWW.Euronaut.org <http://www.euronaut.org/>
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From jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com  Thu Aug 15 05:03:06 2013
From: jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com (James Frankland)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:03:06 +0100
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
In-Reply-To: <1376517480.67355.YahooMailNeo@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAHpB=UBeH1-RsEQ9g3H4cyTMnzCko1AjPn2N=xoWM8peYP+ePw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1376488795.23909.YahooMailNeo@web133005.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
 <1376503043.5221.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <68B5A3B487A844DDA755BE93FC27DD35@LandNSeaPC>
 <CAOGJjn+RULEGuWT=FUmdXPKqSBSh_RcGYxAE2XjCQ1Eg0pz7rg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1376517480.67355.YahooMailNeo@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAHpB=UBQd-RD3yD-UKT_waTqaD-XAJvjW902wFw1g-JVUbhXHA@mail.gmail.com>

I just had a look Hank.  Looks good.  I've got a shipwreck book somewhere
with a really nice oil painting of Gamma skulking about over a wreck.
Might be the Titanic, or Bismark.  Something famous anyway.  I'll see if i
can find it.
James

On 14 August 2013 22:58, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:

>  Thanks Douglas
> Hank
>
>   *From:* Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com>
>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:56:25 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>
>  Just checked out the photo you posted Hank. Very nice! Good luck with
> the restoration, I can't wait to see what you do with her. ~ Douglas S.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Land N Sea <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net>wrote:
>
>   Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any
> photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?
>
> rick
>
>  *From:* hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
> *To:* Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com> ; Personal
> Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>
>   The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.  Today I
> expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the
> front of the sub.  I have posted the first  picture of the progress.
> Hank
>
>   *From:* Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>
>  hello here
> Juergen
>
>   *Von:* James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
> *An:* personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org
> *Gesendet:* 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
> *Betreff:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>
>  Ive changed mail servers.  can someone please reply.
> Thanks
> James
>
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From MerlinSub at t-online.de  Thu Aug 15 13:00:00 2013
From: MerlinSub at t-online.de ( )
Date: 15 Aug 2013 17:00 GMT
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
In-Reply-To: <CAHpB=UBQd-RD3yD-UKT_waTqaD-XAJvjW902wFw1g-JVUbhXHA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHpB=UBeH1-RsEQ9g3H4cyTMnzCko1AjPn2N=xoWM8peYP+ePw@mail.gmail.com> 
 <1376488795.23909.YahooMailNeo@web133005.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> 
 <1376503043.5221.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> 
 <68B5A3B487A844DDA755BE93FC27DD35@LandNSeaPC> 
 <CAOGJjn+RULEGuWT=FUmdXPKqSBSh_RcGYxAE2XjCQ1Eg0pz7rg@mail.gmail.com> 
 <1376517480.67355.YahooMailNeo@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> 
 <CAHpB=UBQd-RD3yD-UKT_waTqaD-XAJvjW902wFw1g-JVUbhXHA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1VA0vI-0Ms5DM0@fwd16.t-online.de>

I think it was the Lusitania

vbr. Carsten   

"James Frankland" <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com> schrieb: 
I just had a look Hank.  Looks good.  I've got a shipwreck book
somewhere with a really nice oil painting of Gamma skulking about over a
wreck.  Might be the Titanic, or Bismark.  Something famous anyway. 
I'll see if i can find it.
James 


On 14 August 2013 22:58, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:

Thanks Douglas
Hank


From: Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com> 

To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 

Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:56:25 PM 

Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration



Just checked out the photo you posted Hank. Very nice! Good luck with
the restoration, I can't wait to see what you do with her. ~ Douglas S.




On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Land N Sea <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:

Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any
photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?

rick

From: hank pronk 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
To: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz ; Personal Submersibles General Discussion

Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration

The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.  Today I
expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at
the front of the sub.  I have posted the first  picture of the
progress.
Hank

From: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail


hello here
Juergen


Von: James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
An: personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org 
Gesendet: 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail


Ive changed mail servers.  can someone please reply.
Thanks
James

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Heinrich Reck Str.12A
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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Thu Aug 15 13:40:53 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
In-Reply-To: <1VA0vI-0Ms5DM0@fwd16.t-online.de>
References: <CAHpB=UBeH1-RsEQ9g3H4cyTMnzCko1AjPn2N=xoWM8peYP+ePw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1376488795.23909.YahooMailNeo@web133005.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
 <1376503043.5221.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <68B5A3B487A844DDA755BE93FC27DD35@LandNSeaPC>
 <CAOGJjn+RULEGuWT=FUmdXPKqSBSh_RcGYxAE2XjCQ1Eg0pz7rg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1376517480.67355.YahooMailNeo@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <CAHpB=UBQd-RD3yD-UKT_waTqaD-XAJvjW902wFw1g-JVUbhXHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1VA0vI-0Ms5DM0@fwd16.t-online.de>
Message-ID: <1376588453.69050.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Nekton Delta was on the Lusitania, I am not sure that Gamma was also.
Hank?

From: "MerlinSub at t-online.de" <MerlinSub at t-online.de>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:00:00 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration



I think it was the Lusitania

vbr. Carsten ? 

"James Frankland" <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com> schrieb: 
I just had a look Hank.? Looks good.? I've got a shipwreck book somewhere with a?really nice oil painting of Gamma skulking about over?a wreck.? Might be the Titanic, or Bismark.? Something famous anyway.? I'll see if i can find it.
>James?
>
>
>On 14 August 2013 22:58, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>Thanks Douglas
>>Hank
>>
>>
>>From: Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com> 
>>
>>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:56:25 PM 
>>
>>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>>
>>
>>
>>Just checked out the photo you posted Hank. Very nice! Good luck with the restoration, I can't wait to see what you do with her. ~ Douglas S.?
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Land N Sea <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>>Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?
>>>
>>>rick
>>>
>>>From: hank pronk 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
>>>To: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz ; Personal Submersibles General Discussion 
>>>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>>>The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.? Today I expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the front of the sub.? I have posted the first? picture of the progress.
>>>Hank
>>>
>>>From: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
>>>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>hello here
>>>Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>Von: James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
>>>An: personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org 
>>>Gesendet: 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
>>>Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ive changed mail servers.? can someone please reply.
>>>Thanks
>>>James
>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>
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From josephperkel at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 15 13:49:16 2013
From: josephperkel at yahoo.com (Joe Perkel)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:49:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
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.....and if I recall correctly, had to she'd her tail on the Lusitania in an entanglement incident.<br/><br/>Scary stuff!<br/><br/>Joe<br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Sun Aug 18 19:59:30 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 16:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
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Posted progress pictures,? front mbt is welded back on with slight change to angle of attachment point to avoid rusting.? I removed the electric system and panel.?? Gutted most of the sub and vacuumed out 10 years of crud and two spiders imported from Florida. 
Hank

From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:40:53 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration



Nekton Delta was on the Lusitania, I am not sure that Gamma was also.
Hank?

From: "MerlinSub at t-online.de" <MerlinSub at t-online.de>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:00:00 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration



I think it was the Lusitania

vbr. Carsten ? 

"James Frankland" <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com> schrieb: 
I just had a look Hank.? Looks good.? I've got a shipwreck book somewhere with a?really nice oil painting of Gamma skulking about over?a wreck.? Might be the Titanic, or Bismark.? Something famous anyway.? I'll see if i can find it.
>James?
>
>
>On 14 August 2013 22:58, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>Thanks Douglas
>>Hank
>>
>>
>>From: Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com> 
>>
>>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:56:25 PM 
>>
>>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>>
>>
>>
>>Just checked out the photo you posted Hank. Very nice! Good luck with the restoration, I can't wait to see what you do with her. ~ Douglas S.?
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Land N Sea <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>>Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?
>>>
>>>rick
>>>
>>>From: hank pronk 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
>>>To: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz ; Personal Submersibles General Discussion 
>>>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>>>The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.? Today I expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the front of the sub.? I have posted the first? picture of the progress.
>>>Hank
>>>
>>>From: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
>>>To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>hello here
>>>Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>Von: James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
>>>An: personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org 
>>>Gesendet: 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
>>>Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ive changed mail servers.? can someone please reply.
>>>Thanks
>>>James
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From JimToddPsub at aol.com  Sun Aug 18 21:31:55 2013
From: JimToddPsub at aol.com (JimToddPsub at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
Message-ID: <dd05f.136ef11d.3f42cf8b@aol.com>

Hi Hank,
Thanks for posting the new pics.  We'll be following the  progress eagerly. 
 However those two spiders might be a breeding pair of an  endangered 
species known as floridussubmarinus.  If so, you will  be held responsible for 
their welfare.
Jim
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2013 7:00:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca writes:

Posted progress  pictures,  front mbt is welded back on with slight change 
to angle of  attachment point to avoid rusting.  I removed the electric 
system and  panel.   Gutted most of the sub and vacuumed out 10 years of crud  
and two spiders imported from Florida. 
Hank

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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Sun Aug 18 22:09:02 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:09:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
In-Reply-To: <dd05f.136ef11d.3f42cf8b@aol.com>
References: <dd05f.136ef11d.3f42cf8b@aol.com>
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Jim,
Probably my new sub will have to go into quarantine, with this new spider species.
Hank?

From: "JimToddPsub at aol.com" <JimToddPsub at aol.com>
To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:31:55 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration



Hi Hank,
Thanks for posting the new pics.? We'll be following the progress eagerly.? However those two spiders might be a breeding pair of an endangered species known as floridussubmarinus.? If so, you will be held responsible for their welfare.
Jim

In a message dated 8/18/2013 7:00:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca writes:
Posted progress pictures,? front mbt is welded back on with slight change to angle of attachment point to avoid rusting.? I removed the electric system and panel.?? Gutted most of the sub and vacuumed out 10 years of crud and two spiders imported from Florida. 
>Hank
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From alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 18 22:41:00 2013
From: alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:41:00 +0700
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
In-Reply-To: <1376878142.12225.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <dd05f.136ef11d.3f42cf8b@aol.com>
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Thanks for the photos Hank,
I don't think the spiders would survive the Canadian winter. Especially ones from
Florida.
Alan

Sent from my iPad

On 19/08/2013, at 9:09 AM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Jim,
> Probably my new sub will have to go into quarantine, with this new spider species.
> Hank 
> 
> From: "JimToddPsub at aol.com" <JimToddPsub at aol.com>
> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org 
> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:31:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
> 
> Hi Hank,
> Thanks for posting the new pics.  We'll be following the progress eagerly.  However those two spiders might be a breeding pair of an endangered species known as floridussubmarinus.  If so, you will be held responsible for their welfare.
> Jim
>  
> In a message dated 8/18/2013 7:00:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca writes:
> Posted progress pictures,  front mbt is welded back on with slight change to angle of attachment point to avoid rusting.  I removed the electric system and panel.   Gutted most of the sub and vacuumed out 10 years of crud and two spiders imported from Florida.
> Hank
> 
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From jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com  Mon Aug 19 05:21:54 2013
From: jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com (James Frankland)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:21:54 +0100
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
In-Reply-To: <1376588453.69050.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <CAHpB=UBeH1-RsEQ9g3H4cyTMnzCko1AjPn2N=xoWM8peYP+ePw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <1376503043.5221.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <68B5A3B487A844DDA755BE93FC27DD35@LandNSeaPC>
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Message-ID: <CAHpB=UDFeoKj6rsKyv-xigSjVqzPZfMmjnrjCk=cJQLzCZanXA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Hank,

Found the book.  The paintings are of the Delta on Lusitania, that was what
i was thinking about.  My mistake.  Great book though.

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Ships-Robert-Ballard-Unforgettable/dp/1592234240

Kind Regards
James

On 15 August 2013 18:40, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:

>  Nekton Delta was on the Lusitania, I am not sure that Gamma was also.
> Hank
>
>   *From:* "MerlinSub at t-online.de" <MerlinSub at t-online.de>
>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:00:00 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>
>  I think it was the Lusitania
>
> vbr. Carsten
>
> "James Frankland" <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com> schrieb:
>
> I just had a look Hank.  Looks good.  I've got a shipwreck book somewhere
> with a really nice oil painting of Gamma skulking about over a wreck.
> Might be the Titanic, or Bismark.  Something famous anyway.  I'll see if i
> can find it.
> James
>
> On 14 August 2013 22:58, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>  Thanks Douglas
> Hank
>
>   *From:* Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com>
>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:56:25 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>
>  Just checked out the photo you posted Hank. Very nice! Good luck with
> the restoration, I can't wait to see what you do with her. ~ Douglas S.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Land N Sea <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net>wrote:
>
>   Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any
> photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?
>
> rick
>
>  *From:* hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
> *To:* Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com> ; Personal
> Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>
>   The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.  Today I
> expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the
> front of the sub.  I have posted the first  picture of the progress.
> Hank
>
>   *From:* Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>
>  hello here
> Juergen
>
>   *Von:* James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
> *An:* personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org
> *Gesendet:* 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
> *Betreff:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>
>  Ive changed mail servers.  can someone please reply.
> Thanks
> James
>
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From alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 19 06:23:36 2013
From: alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:23:36 +0700
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
In-Reply-To: <CAHpB=UDFeoKj6rsKyv-xigSjVqzPZfMmjnrjCk=cJQLzCZanXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHpB=UBeH1-RsEQ9g3H4cyTMnzCko1AjPn2N=xoWM8peYP+ePw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <1376503043.5221.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <68B5A3B487A844DDA755BE93FC27DD35@LandNSeaPC>
 <CAOGJjn+RULEGuWT=FUmdXPKqSBSh_RcGYxAE2XjCQ1Eg0pz7rg@mail.gmail.com>
 <1376517480.67355.YahooMailNeo@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <CAHpB=UBQd-RD3yD-UKT_waTqaD-XAJvjW902wFw1g-JVUbhXHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <1VA0vI-0Ms5DM0@fwd16.t-online.de>
 <1376588453.69050.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <B739681F-2799-4641-B29A-07B51AA67DA0@yahoo.com>

James,
How is preparation going on your sub.
Any guess on a launch date?
Alan

Sent from my iPad

On 19/08/2013, at 4:21 PM, James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com> wrote:

> Hi Hank,
> 
> Found the book.  The paintings are of the Delta on Lusitania, that was what i was thinking about.  My mistake.  Great book though.
>  
> http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Ships-Robert-Ballard-Unforgettable/dp/1592234240
> 
> Kind Regards
> James
>  
> On 15 August 2013 18:40, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Nekton Delta was on the Lusitania, I am not sure that Gamma was also.
>> Hank 
>> 
>> From: "MerlinSub at t-online.de" <MerlinSub at t-online.de>
>> 
>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> Ames
>> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:00:00 AM
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>> 
>> I think it was the Lusitania
>> 
>> vbr. Carsten   
>> 
>> "James Frankland" <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com> schrieb:
>> I just had a look Hank.  Looks good.  I've got a shipwreck book somewhere with a really nice oil painting of Gamma skulking about over a wreck.  Might be the Titanic, or Bismark.  Something famous anyway.  I'll see if i can find it.
>> James 
>> 
>> On 14 August 2013 22:58, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Thanks Douglas
>> Hank
>> 
>> From: Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com>
>> 
>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:56:25 PM
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>> 
>> Just checked out the photo you posted Hank. Very nice! Good luck with the restoration, I can't wait to see what you do with her. ~ Douglas S. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Land N Sea <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?
>>  
>> rick
>>  
>> From: hank pronk
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
>> To: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz ; Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>>  
>> The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.  Today I expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the front of the sub.  I have posted the first  picture of the progress.
>> Hank
>>  
>> From: Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>>  
>> hello here
>> Juergen
>>  
>> Von: James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
>> An: personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org 
>> Gesendet: 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
>> Betreff: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>>  
>> Ive changed mail servers.  can someone please reply.
>> Thanks
>> James
>> 
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From jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com  Mon Aug 19 06:50:25 2013
From: jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com (James Frankland)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:50:25 +0100
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
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Hi Alan,

I completed the trailer yesterday.  So i need to now arrange the crane to
lift it out of the shed onto the trailer.  But i am away next week on
holiday so that is going to delay me a week.  But after that.  I have
arranged to use a local quarry which is fresh water for an initial dip
test.  I dont think the slipway is deep enough for a full launch but at
least i can test most of the seals before putting it in the sea.  If it
leaks, i would much prefer fresh water inside than seawater.  So i expect
to be in the water in 3 weeks max.
Kind Regards
James



On 19 August 2013 11:23, Alan <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  James,
> How is preparation going on your sub.
> Any guess on a launch date?
>  Alan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 19/08/2013, at 4:21 PM, James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Hi Hank,
>
> Found the book.  The paintings are of the Delta on Lusitania, that was
> what i was thinking about.  My mistake.  Great book though.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Ships-Robert-Ballard-Unforgettable/dp/1592234240
>
> Kind Regards
> James
>
>  On 15 August 2013 18:40, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>   Nekton Delta was on the Lusitania, I am not sure that Gamma was also.
>> Hank
>>
>>   *From:* "MerlinSub at t-online.de" <MerlinSub at t-online.de>
>>
>> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> Ames
>>  *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:00:00 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>>
>>  I think it was the Lusitania
>>
>> vbr. Carsten
>>
>> "James Frankland" <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com> schrieb:
>>
>> I just had a look Hank.  Looks good.  I've got a shipwreck book somewhere
>> with a really nice oil painting of Gamma skulking about over a wreck.
>> Might be the Titanic, or Bismark.  Something famous anyway.  I'll see if i
>> can find it.
>> James
>>
>> On 14 August 2013 22:58, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks Douglas
>> Hank
>>
>>   *From:* Douglas Suhr <spiritofcalypso at gmail.com>
>>
>> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:56:25 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>>
>>  Just checked out the photo you posted Hank. Very nice! Good luck with
>> the restoration, I can't wait to see what you do with her. ~ Douglas S.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Land N Sea <landnsea1 at hawaiiantel.net>wrote:
>>
>>   Did you UT the rust area to see how deep it is? also do you have any
>> photos and data on the construction of your mechanical arm?
>>
>> rick
>>
>>  *From:* hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:57 AM
>> *To:* Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com> ; Personal
>> Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Gamma restoration
>>
>>   The restoration of my Nekton Gamma sub is progressing well.  Today I
>> expect to be finished with the overlay welding on the rust pitting at the
>> front of the sub.  I have posted the first  picture of the progress.
>> Hank
>>
>>   *From:* Juergen Guerrero Kommritz <groplias2 at yahoo.com>
>> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:59:55 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>>
>>  hello here
>> Juergen
>>
>>   *Von:* James Frankland <jamesf at guernseysubmarine.com>
>> *An:* personal_submersibles at psubs.org; member-forum at psubs.org
>> *Gesendet:* 6:19 Mittwoch, 14.August 2013
>> *Betreff:* [PSUBS-MAILIST] Test Mail
>>
>>  Ive changed mail servers.  can someone please reply.
>> Thanks
>> James
>>
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>> Heinrich Reck Str.12A
>> 18211 Admannshagen
>>
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From jonw at psubs.org  Sat Aug 24 00:57:00 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 00:57:00 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fwd: UI2014 - CALL FOR PAPERS for MANNED
	SUBMERSIBLE Technical Program
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	UI2014 - CALL FOR PAPERS for MANNED SUBMERSIBLE Technical Program
Date: 	Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:50:03 -0700
From: 	Will Kohnen <will.kohnen at gmail.com>
To: 	William Kohnen <wkohnen at hydrospacegroup.com>



/Marine Technology Society/*//*

*/UNDERWATER INTERVENTION 2014/*//

*/Manned Underwater Vehicles PROGRAM/*

UI2014, New Orleans, LA USA

February 11-13, 2014

*CALL for PAPERS*

Dear Friends and Colleagues,

I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to join us at UI2014 
and be a presenter for the Manned Underwater Vehicles program. The 
success of the MTS MUV Program over the past 10 years comes from the 
global participation from members across all sectors (commercial, 
private, tourism, research and military) and strives to stand as a 
professional representative group from the world of human occupied vehicles.

It is the time of year where we need to start organizing the program 
with your ideas for papers and presentations. All you need to do at this 
stage is to decide if you wish to present at the conference and submit 
an idea. A Title and a few words on the subject will be a great start. 
It would be helpful if you could submit that to me by Mid September.

Some of the theme ideas planned for 2014 include:

1)New Vehicles & Technologies

2)Submersible Operations Updates

3)New Materials and Fabrication Technologies

4)Intercultural considerations in Global Business

5)Regulatory updates

6)US Export rule changes for Underwater equipment

7)?. feel free to add to the list

Participation at the UI conference offers a unique opportunity to share 
your work, projects, accomplishments, new ideas and stories with 
professionals in the global Underwater Intervention industry and the 
Manned Submersible community specifically.

The biggest benefit of participating as a Speaker is that the entire 
conference registration, show floor and all technical sessions, is 
complimentary. It also offers a unique opportunity to discuss 
face-to-face with professionals around the world under one roof, for 
three days.

If you have any questions or general theme ideas, please do not hesitate 
to contact me at the coordinates below. Even if it is to suggest topics 
that you wish someone would present.

I look forward to hearing from you and working with you to make UI2014 
another great conference.


Sincerely,

William Kohnen

Track Chair, UI2014 MUV Program

MTS MUV Committee

Tel: (951) 323-5377

Email: will.kohnen at gmail.com <mailto:will.kohnen at gmail.com>



-- 
William Kohnen
President
Hydrospace Group
Tel. (951) 323-5377
Fax (909) 912-8397
www.HydrospaceGroup.com <http://www.hydrospacegroup.com/>


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From jonw at psubs.org  Sat Aug 24 01:54:00 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 01:54:00 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 2013 PSUBS CONVENTION
Message-ID: <52184A78.1000104@psubs.org>


Hello fellow psubbers,

Registration for the 2013 Convention is now open at 
http://www.psubs.org/convention/2013  or follow the menu,
www.psubs.org -> News & Events -> Events & Meetings

Please Note:
1) The registration fee includes lunch during the technical sessions on 
Sat Oct 5 as well as an amount to help reimburse travel expenses for 
attending submarines.  Lunch is a deli buffet where you can build your 
own "submarine" sandwich.  Salads will be available for the vegetarians 
in our group.  We have been provided two adjacent but separate rooms, 
one for the presentations and another for lunch.  I need a final count 7 
days prior to the event so please register early.

2) We will have a computer projector available for presentations. If you 
own a projector and can bring it with you for use as a spare we would 
appreciate you doing so.  If you are a presenter, please bring your 
presentation on a USB or CDROM...MS PowerPoint or similar Open Office 
document is preferred.  Need help?  Ask Scott Waters or myself.

3) Submarine diving on Friday OCT 5 will occur on the Bay side of the 
islands.  The water is fairly shallow at about 6-10 feet and historical 
data shows a water temp average between 82-84 F (28.5 C).  Visibility at 
the same time last year was reported between 50-70 feet on average.  
Observers will need to rent boats which average about $250/day (plus 
fuel) for 6-8 passengers.

Much more to come.
Jon


From jonw at psubs.org  Sat Aug 24 10:36:27 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:36:27 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 2013 PSUBS CONVENTION
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References: <52184A78.1000104@psubs.org>
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Submariners and Divers,

Key Dives shop is a full service scuba operation only 6 miles from dive 
operations and 2.5 miles from the Islander Resort.  Refills for 80 cf 
tanks are $6.

http://www.keydives.com/


From psub101 at indy.rr.com  Sat Aug 24 20:42:39 2013
From: psub101 at indy.rr.com (Steve McQueen)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 20:42:39 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New Aluminum K-250 Skids For Sale
Message-ID: <000b01cea12c$00a2df30$01e89d90$@indy.rr.com>

All, I had a communication issue with my machine shop and ended up with an
extra set of aluminum K-250 skids. They have been posted on the "for sale by
owner" section of our site (see photos there).

 

They are built to the drawing except made of 3/8" aluminum and have tabs on
the nose for a bolt on crash bar option.

 

They should be low maintenance and they are beefy! I have mine bolted onto
my hull so they can be removed for hull maintenance. 

 

I am asking what I paid.

 

Thanks,

Steve McQueen

 

 

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From alecsmyth at gmail.com  Sat Aug 24 21:19:19 2013
From: alecsmyth at gmail.com (Alec)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:19:19 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New Aluminum K-250 Skids For Sale
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FYI, I've seen these first hand and would strongly recommend them for anyone considering a K-250 build. The only reason I didn't buy them myself is that I already have skids on Snoopy and don't want to do any welding on the hull at present as the paint is still good. But for anyone building a K-250, these would be a considerable improvement over the standard steel skids. 

Best,

Alec



On Aug 24, 2013, at 8:42 PM, "Steve McQueen" <psub101 at indy.rr.com> wrote:

> All, I had a communication issue with my machine shop and ended up with an extra set of aluminum K-250 skids. They have been posted on the ?for sale by owner? section of our site (see photos there).
>  
> They are built to the drawing except made of 3/8? aluminum and have tabs on the nose for a bolt on crash bar option.
>  
> They should be low maintenance and they are beefy! I have mine bolted onto my hull so they can be removed for hull maintenance.
>  
> I am asking what I paid.
>  
> Thanks,
> Steve McQueen
>  
>  
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From jonw at psubs.org  Mon Aug 26 00:09:01 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 00:09:01 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 2013 PSUBS CONVENTION
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References: <52184A78.1000104@psubs.org> <5218C4EB.5060902@psubs.org>
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PC2013 Current Agenda

REGISTER at http://www.psubs.org/convention/2013

Thursday, OCT 3, 2013
1) Hunting down local submarines.  We'll start the day visiting Mermaid 
II at Florida Sea Base and then tracking down the iconic Diver Down 
submarine that has been relegated to "lawn ornament" status for decades 
in the Keys.  As a predecessor to the K250 it will be interesting and 
educational to see the changes George Kittredge made in the evolution of 
the K250 design.

2) Next we travel through a historical vortex at the "History of Diving 
Museum".  This looks like an interesting visit and we have been provided 
a discounted entry fee of $9 per person.

3) We travel upstream to Key Largo and visit the Jules Undersea Lodge.  
You've seen it online and dreamed about opening your own to escape that 
9-5 corporate world.  Now you'll visit the actual site and witness this 
world famous lodge first-hand.  Amazingly, it sits very innocuously at 
the end of a residential neighborhood.

4) Meet & Greet.  We end the day at a pub where we can sit casually, 
enjoy the island atmosphere, and acquaint ourselves with both old and 
new friends.  Talking "shop" is encouraged.


Friday, OCT 4 2013
Submarine diving is the game today.  We will launch at the far end of 
Islamorada and head out into the Gulf of Mexico to witness submarine 
diving.  Observers will need to arrange sharing the cost of a rental 
boat and fuel.  Estimated cost will be $50/person. Bring a 
mask/snorkel/scuba and witness operations from the water. Projected 
water temp in October is 83-86 F.  Also bring food, beverage, sunscreen, 
sunglasses, and hat!  We will be out all day (or at least a good portion 
of it).


Saturday, OCT 5 2013
Technical Seminars.  We have a full line-up of speakers presenting 
topics from submarine project updates, to LED lighting, to manipulator 
arm design.  Lunch is included in the registration fee. See the website 
for more detailed information.


Sunday, OCT 6 2013
A travel day back home for many, but if you are planning on spending 
additional time in the keys you can join Scott Waters for some SCUBA on 
some of the beautiful reefs and/or wrecks in the area.


REGISTER at http://www.psubs.org/convention/2013



From swaters at waters-ks.com  Mon Aug 26 10:27:56 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:27:56 -0500
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
Message-ID: <noqbumwbrfn8c576cm0ye3ws.1377527069429@email.android.com>

Does anyone have the link to that sub for sale in Kansas City, MO? I need some kind of proof for value of a sub in the area so the appraiser can value it. Haha! Jim, do you have this link somewhere?
Thanks,
Scott Waters




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From JimToddPsub at aol.com  Mon Aug 26 12:37:58 2013
From: JimToddPsub at aol.com (JimToddPsub at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:37:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
Message-ID: <10804c.795009a8.3f4cde66@aol.com>

Scott,  

Below is the link you requested, but I don't think it will be of any  value 
to you as a comparable.  For one, it's really an uncompleted,  untested 
design attempt that may or may not be successful.  I had  serious concerns 
about it.  The "in the area" standard might be applicable  for appraising a car 
within a market area, but the geographic market area for a  manned 
submersible is much broader.  There just ain't a ton of 'em in  Kansas.
 
I don't recall the K-boats that have been posted for sale on Psubs, but  
someone else on the site can chime in and tell you.  Those would be a much  
better starting place, however those were obviously "used," and yours is brand 
 new.  Perhaps some other K-boat owners have insurance values established 
on  their boats and could share that info with you.
 
Good luck,
Jim
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Composite-Submarine-1-2-People-Only-One-In-Ex
istence-Featured-In-Magazine-/321159224800?pt=Personal_Wate
rcraft&hash=item4ac694dde0&vxp=mtr 
 
 



 
In a message dated 8/26/2013 10:44:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
swaters at waters-ks.com writes:

Does anyone have the link to that sub for sale in Kansas City, MO? I need  
some kind of proof for value of a sub in the area so the appraiser can value 
 it. Haha! Jim, do you have this link somewhere?
Thanks,
Scott Waters









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From jonw at psubs.org  Mon Aug 26 12:47:05 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:47:05 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
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Not to mention that at $5,600 the sub you are referencing doesn't 
adequately reflect the replacement cost of your K350.  The used K350 
market is somewhere around 20k-35k depending upon equipment.  Let me 
know if a written statement from PSUBS would help.

Jon


From MerlinSub at t-online.de  Mon Aug 26 13:25:00 2013
From: MerlinSub at t-online.de ( )
Date: 26 Aug 2013 17:25 GMT
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submadmans - Or how to clean barnacels - video Link
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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Mon Aug 26 14:05:32 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:05:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
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Scott,
Contact Alan at Silvercrest Submarines, tell him what you need and I am sure he will send you a current value of a K sub.? He gave me a rather favorable assessment of my Nekton sub.
Hank?

From: Jon Wallace <jonw at psubs.org>
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:47:05 AM
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Not to mention that at $5,600 the sub you are referencing doesn't adequately reflect the replacement cost of your K350.? The used K350 market is somewhere around 20k-35k depending upon equipment.? Let me know if a written statement from PSUBS would help.

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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Mon Aug 26 17:26:40 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters at waters-ks.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:26:40 -0700
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] =?utf-8?q?Link=3F?=
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From wmartindale at cfl.rr.com  Mon Aug 26 17:39:37 2013
From: wmartindale at cfl.rr.com (Ken Martindale)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 17:39:37 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
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Scott,

 

You can store it here. I?m in Malabar about 20 miles south of where they launch the Shuttle, or used to.

 

Got a big yard. ?Bout 2 miles off 95.

 

Good luck,

 

Ken Martindale

 

From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] On Behalf Of swaters at waters-ks.com
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:27 PM
To: hank pronk; Personal Submersibles General Discussion
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?

 

Well, Kansas taxes the hell out of luxury items. Even though I will never use my sub in Kansas and I am planning on storing it here. According to the tax law, what matters is where it sits at the end of the year. I am half tempted to just get a friend in Florida to store it there and not pay hardly anything for taxes. For a $30,000 submarine, the state of Kansas will charge about $1,400 per year in taxes. Uggg.

Thanks,

Scott 

 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
Date: Mon, August 26, 2013 11:05 am
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
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Scott,

Contact Alan at Silvercrest Submarines, tell him what you need and I am sure he will send you a current value of a K sub.  He gave me a rather favorable assessment of my Nekton sub.

Hank 

 

From: Jon Wallace <jonw at psubs.org>
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:47:05 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?



Not to mention that at $5,600 the sub you are referencing doesn't adequately reflect the replacement cost of your K350.  The used K350 market is somewhere around 20k-35k depending upon equipment.  Let me know if a written statement from PSUBS would help.

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From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters at waters-ks.com)
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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Mon Aug 26 17:51:36 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters at waters-ks.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:51:36 -0700
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] =?utf-8?q?Link=3F?=
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From JimToddPsub at aol.com  Mon Aug 26 18:07:17 2013
From: JimToddPsub at aol.com (JimToddPsub at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:07:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
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Scott,
 
Now I understand that you are talking about an assessor  since it has to do 
with evaluation for tax purposes.  Similar to an  appraiser but different.  
I wonder if you could submit your cost  figures as a basis for assessment.  
Thanks for bring up the topic; I had  not really considered it.  
 
Small point:  In most jurisdictions, the assessments are based on the  
property owned on the first day of the year, not the last.  Having it  
registered and stored in a different state might be a very good idea.  It  would also 
save having to transport to clear water water when you want to use  it.
 
Catch you later,
Jim
 
 
In a message dated 8/26/2013 4:51:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
swaters at waters-ks.com writes:

Sweet. Thanks Ken. I'll see what the appraisers office has to say and we  
will go from there. There isn't many appraisers in Kansas who know how to  
appraise a sub. haha.
Thanks,
Scott Waters 
 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re:  [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
From: "Ken Martindale" <_wmartindale at cfl.rr.com_ 
(mailto:wmartindale at cfl.rr.com) >
Date:  Mon, August 26, 2013 2:39 pm
To: "'Personal Submersibles General  Discussion'"
<_personal_submersibles at psubs.org_ (mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org) 
>


Scott,
 
You  can store it here. I?m in Malabar about 20 miles south of where they 
launch  the Shuttle, or used to.
 
Got  a big yard. ?Bout 2 miles off 95.
 
Good  luck,
 
Ken  Martindale
 
 
 
From:  Personal_Submersibles 
[mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]  On Behalf Of _swaters at waters-ks.com_ (mailto:swaters at waters-ks.com) 
Sent:  Monday, August 26, 2013 5:27 PM
To: hank pronk; Personal  Submersibles General Discussion
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]  Link?


 
 
Well,  Kansas taxes the hell out of luxury items. Even though I will never 
use my  sub in Kansas and I am planning on storing it here. According to the 
tax  law, what matters is where it sits at the end of the year. I am half 
tempted  to just get a friend in Florida to store it there and not pay hardly 
 anything for taxes. For a $30,000 submarine, the state of Kansas will 
charge  about $1,400 per year in taxes. Uggg.

 
Thanks,

 
Scott  

 



 
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
From:  hank pronk <_hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca_ 
(mailto:hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca) >
Date: Mon, August 26,  2013 11:05 am
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
<_personal_submersibles at psubs.org_ (mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org) 
>
 
 
Scott,

 
Contact Alan at  Silvercrest Submarines, tell him what you need and I am 
sure he will send  you a current value of a K sub.  He gave me a rather 
favorable  assessment of my Nekton sub.

 
Hank 

 


 
 
 
From:  Jon Wallace <_jonw at psubs.org_ (mailto:jonw at psubs.org) >
To: Personal Submersibles  General Discussion 
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Sent:  Monday, August 26, 2013 10:47:05 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]  Link?

 


Not to mention that at $5,600 the sub you are  referencing doesn't 
adequately reflect the replacement cost of your  K350.  The used K350 market is 
somewhere around 20k-35k depending  upon equipment.  Let me know if a written 
statement from PSUBS would  help.

Jon

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From jonw at psubs.org  Mon Aug 26 19:36:03 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:36:03 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
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Sounds like it's time to move back to Islamorada Scott.


On 8/26/2013 5:26 PM, swaters at waters-ks.com wrote:
> Well, Kansas taxes the hell out of luxury items. Even though I will 
> never use my sub in Kansas and I am planning on storing it here. 
> According to the tax law, what matters is where it sits at the end of 
> the year. I am half tempted to just get a friend in Florida to store 
> it there and not pay hardly anything for taxes. For a $30,000 
> submarine, the state of Kansas will charge about $1,400 per year in 
> taxes. Uggg.
> Thanks,
> Scott
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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Mon Aug 26 20:06:45 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:06:45 -0500
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Link?
Message-ID: <ovfokyw71wmwkxwapet884ji.1377561991061@email.android.com>

I wish
-Scott Waters




Sent from my U.S. Cellular? SmartphoneJon Wallace <jonw at psubs.org> wrote:
Sounds like it's time to move back to Islamorada Scott.


On 8/26/2013 5:26 PM, swaters at waters-ks.com wrote:
Well, Kansas taxes the hell out of luxury items. Even though I will never use my sub in Kansas and I am planning on storing it here. According to the tax law, what matters is           where it sits at the end of the year. I am half tempted to just get a friend in Florida to store it there and not pay hardly anything for taxes. For a $30,000 submarine, the state of Kansas will charge about $1,400 per year in taxes. Uggg.
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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Tue Aug 27 08:35:06 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters at waters-ks.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 05:35:06 -0700
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] update on Trustworthy
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From alecsmyth at gmail.com  Tue Aug 27 08:56:47 2013
From: alecsmyth at gmail.com (Alec Smyth)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:56:47 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] update on Trustworthy
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Wow, she's looking really neat and well made in all respects. Congrats!

Alec


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:35 AM, <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:

> Hey guys. Just a update on Trustworthy:
> I have uploaded a lot of new pictures and they are visible under "Scott
> Waters" in the psub member projects area. I am doing the final assembly
> after painting it this weekend and we will be testing in the muddy lakes of
> Kansas soon!
> Thanks,
> Scott Waters
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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Tue Aug 27 09:04:34 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:04:34 -0500
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] update on Trustworthy
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Thanks Alec!
-Scott Waters




Sent from my U.S. Cellular? SmartphoneAlec Smyth <alecsmyth at gmail.com> wrote:Wow, she's looking really neat and well made in all respects. Congrats!?

Alec


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:35 AM, <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
Hey guys. Just a update on Trustworthy:
I have uploaded a lot of new pictures and they are visible under "Scott Waters" in the psub member projects area. I am doing the final assembly after painting it this weekend and we will be testing in the muddy lakes of Kansas soon!
Thanks,
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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Tue Aug 27 10:12:26 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:12:26 -0500
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Conference Triton tour
Message-ID: <4s5bhjg65y6h41fomnx427n5.1377612697282@email.android.com>

Is anyone still planning on doing the triton tour before the convention?
Thanks,
Scott Waters




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From jimtoddpsub at aol.com  Tue Aug 27 10:14:33 2013
From: jimtoddpsub at aol.com (jimtoddpsub at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:14:33 +0000
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Conference Triton tour
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Scott, I'll call you. 
Jim


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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Tue Aug 27 10:32:36 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:32:36 -0500
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 2013 PSUBS CONVENTION
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Can I get a head count who is staying for Sunday activities at the convention? I think we are talking about scuba diving the USS Speigel Grove.
Thanks,
Scott Waters




Sent from my U.S. Cellular? SmartphoneJon Wallace <jonw at psubs.org> wrote:
PC2013 Current Agenda

REGISTER at http://www.psubs.org/convention/2013

Thursday, OCT 3, 2013
1) Hunting down local submarines.? We'll start the day visiting Mermaid 
II at Florida Sea Base and then tracking down the iconic Diver Down 
submarine that has been relegated to "lawn ornament" status for decades 
in the Keys.? As a predecessor to the K250 it will be interesting and 
educational to see the changes George Kittredge made in the evolution of 
the K250 design.

2) Next we travel through a historical vortex at the "History of Diving 
Museum".? This looks like an interesting visit and we have been provided 
a discounted entry fee of $9 per person.

3) We travel upstream to Key Largo and visit the Jules Undersea Lodge.? 
You've seen it online and dreamed about opening your own to escape that 
9-5 corporate world.? Now you'll visit the actual site and witness this 
world famous lodge first-hand.? Amazingly, it sits very innocuously at 
the end of a residential neighborhood.

4) Meet & Greet.? We end the day at a pub where we can sit casually, 
enjoy the island atmosphere, and acquaint ourselves with both old and 
new friends.? Talking "shop" is encouraged.


Friday, OCT 4 2013
Submarine diving is the game today.? We will launch at the far end of 
Islamorada and head out into the Gulf of Mexico to witness submarine 
diving.? Observers will need to arrange sharing the cost of a rental 
boat and fuel.? Estimated cost will be $50/person. Bring a 
mask/snorkel/scuba and witness operations from the water. Projected 
water temp in October is 83-86 F.? Also bring food, beverage, sunscreen, 
sunglasses, and hat!? We will be out all day (or at least a good portion 
of it).


Saturday, OCT 5 2013
Technical Seminars.? We have a full line-up of speakers presenting 
topics from submarine project updates, to LED lighting, to manipulator 
arm design.? Lunch is included in the registration fee. See the website 
for more detailed information.


Sunday, OCT 6 2013
A travel day back home for many, but if you are planning on spending 
additional time in the keys you can join Scott Waters for some SCUBA on 
some of the beautiful reefs and/or wrecks in the area.


REGISTER at http://www.psubs.org/convention/2013


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From alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 27 10:33:02 2013
From: alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:33:02 +0300
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Conference Triton tour
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Hi Scott,
Alec & I were talking about dropping in on Triton about mid day on September 30.
We are taking the train down from Washington to Orlando, then towing Snoopy the rest of the way. Pretty informal at the moment but if there are any others interested in visiting at that time I
Could email Troy at Triton.
Alan

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On 27/08/2013, at 5:12 PM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:

> Is anyone still planning on doing the triton tour before the convention?
> Thanks,
> Scott Waters
> 
> 
> 
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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Tue Aug 27 10:46:41 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters at waters-ks.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:46:41 -0700
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] speaker schedule for psubs conference
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From spiritofcalypso at gmail.com  Tue Aug 27 10:55:49 2013
From: spiritofcalypso at gmail.com (Douglas Suhr)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:55:49 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] update on Trustworthy
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Scott, an awesome boat! Can't wait to see her in person! ~ Douglas S.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:04 AM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:

> Thanks Alec!
> -Scott Waters
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Smartphone
>
> Alec Smyth <alecsmyth at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, she's looking really neat and well made in all respects. Congrats!
>
> Alec
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:35 AM, <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys. Just a update on Trustworthy:
>> I have uploaded a lot of new pictures and they are visible under "Scott
>> Waters" in the psub member projects area. I am doing the final assembly
>> after painting it this weekend and we will be testing in the muddy lakes of
>> Kansas soon!
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Waters
>>
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From jonw at psubs.org  Tue Aug 27 11:08:19 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:08:19 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] update on Trustworthy
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Looking great Scott!

Jon


From alecsmyth at gmail.com  Tue Aug 27 11:25:53 2013
From: alecsmyth at gmail.com (Alec Smyth)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:25:53 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 2013 PSUBS CONVENTION
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I have to leave early Sunday AM, sorry.

Alec


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:32 AM, swaters <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:

> Can I get a head count who is staying for Sunday activities at the
> convention? I think we are talking about scuba diving the USS Speigel Grove.
> Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my U.S. Cellular? Smartphone
>
> Jon Wallace <jonw at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> PC2013 Current Agenda
>
> REGISTER at http://www.psubs.org/convention/2013
>
> Thursday, OCT 3, 2013
> 1) Hunting down local submarines.  We'll start the day visiting Mermaid
> II at Florida Sea Base and then tracking down the iconic Diver Down
> submarine that has been relegated to "lawn ornament" status for decades
> in the Keys.  As a predecessor to the K250 it will be interesting and
> educational to see the changes George Kittredge made in the evolution of
> the K250 design.
>
> 2) Next we travel through a historical vortex at the "History of Diving
> Museum".  This looks like an interesting visit and we have been provided
> a discounted entry fee of $9 per person.
>
> 3) We travel upstream to Key Largo and visit the Jules Undersea Lodge.
> You've seen it online and dreamed about opening your own to escape that
> 9-5 corporate world.  Now you'll visit the actual site and witness this
> world famous lodge first-hand.  Amazingly, it sits very innocuously at
> the end of a residential neighborhood.
>
> 4) Meet & Greet.  We end the day at a pub where we can sit casually,
> enjoy the island atmosphere, and acquaint ourselves with both old and
> new friends.  Talking "shop" is encouraged.
>
>
> Friday, OCT 4 2013
> Submarine diving is the game today.  We will launch at the far end of
> Islamorada and head out into the Gulf of Mexico to witness submarine
> diving.  Observers will need to arrange sharing the cost of a rental
> boat and fuel.  Estimated cost will be $50/person. Bring a
> mask/snorkel/scuba and witness operations from the water. Projected
> water temp in October is 83-86 F.  Also bring food, beverage, sunscreen,
> sunglasses, and hat!  We will be out all day (or at least a good portion
> of it).
>
>
> Saturday, OCT 5 2013
> Technical Seminars.  We have a full line-up of speakers presenting
> topics from submarine project updates, to LED lighting, to manipulator
> arm design.  Lunch is included in the registration fee. See the website
> for more detailed information.
>
>
> Sunday, OCT 6 2013
> A travel day back home for many, but if you are planning on spending
> additional time in the keys you can join Scott Waters for some SCUBA on
> some of the beautiful reefs and/or wrecks in the area.
>
>
> REGISTER at http://www.psubs.org/convention/2013
>
>
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:24:07 -0400
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From subvet596 at optonline.net  Tue Aug 27 13:36:06 2013
From: subvet596 at optonline.net (subvet596 at optonline.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:36:06 +0000
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Conference Triton tour
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Scott:

I will depart CT Saturday September 28. I Should be in Northern FL. on the 29th. I would be interested to go if they have a tour.

Count me in.

John K.
(203) 414-1000
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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Tue Aug 27 15:16:15 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters at waters-ks.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:16:15 -0700
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sodasorb
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From MerlinSub at t-online.de  Tue Aug 27 16:09:00 2013
From: MerlinSub at t-online.de ( )
Date: 27 Aug 2013 20:09 GMT
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sodasorb
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NASA has pretty good stuff.   :-0
But most dive shops and Ebay also.. 

In the past I use for test reason 25 years old one from a (sealed)
russian battletank rebreather 
without problems for diving in my rebreather. 

In Euronaut we use second hand used material from the rebreather diver
in our team 
- still good for some hours - and as best - for free. 
The divers wrote with a marker the usetime on the canister - so we have
an estimate about the rest. 
Most divers shift the stuff away after one or two dives for saftey
reason. 
But in our subs we have the chance to change it even underwater.. 

vbr Carsten

<swaters at waters-ks.com> schrieb: 
Does anyone have a recommendation on where to buy sodasorb? I am wanting
to get it ordered so I have it in time for the conference. Also as long
as it is sealed, what is the shelf life roughly?
Thanks,
Scott Waters
 

-- 

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From alecsmyth at gmail.com  Tue Aug 27 16:18:23 2013
From: alecsmyth at gmail.com (Alec Smyth)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:18:23 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sodasorb
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www.oclugo.com

Specifically, the stuff I get off them is called "Intersorb 812" and comes
in a 45lb tub.


Best,

Alec


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM, <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a recommendation on where to buy sodasorb? I am wanting
> to get it ordered so I have it in time for the conference. Also as long as
> it is sealed, what is the shelf life roughly?
> Thanks,
> Scott Waters
>
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From brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com  Tue Aug 27 16:43:56 2013
From: brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com (brian)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:43:56 GMT
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank
Message-ID: <201308271343334.SM07364@[66.162.33.185]>

Hi All,
??????????????? Very jealous I can't make it to the convention?;-)? !!?? I'm going to have a hard ballast tank which will be approx 21" in?diameter by?36" long.? I don't? really need to access the inside of the tank and I was wondering how I could seal the inside somehow.? Some type of epoxy coating.? But once I do any welding it will desrtoy any coating.? Any ideas ???
Thanks,??? Brian?
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From swaters at waters-ks.com  Tue Aug 27 17:15:34 2013
From: swaters at waters-ks.com (swaters)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:15:34 -0500
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sodasorb
Message-ID: <fxukkc9r59wx8vsb0lgbej2b.1377638112815@email.android.com>

Great!?
Thanks,
Scott Waters





Sent from my U.S. Cellular? SmartphoneAlec Smyth <alecsmyth at gmail.com> wrote:www.oclugo.com

Specifically, the stuff I get off them is called "Intersorb 812" and comes in a 45lb tub.


Best,

Alec


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM, <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
Does anyone have a recommendation on where to buy sodasorb? I am wanting to get it ordered so I have it in time for the conference. Also as long as it is sealed, what is the shelf life roughly?
Thanks,
Scott Waters

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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Tue Aug 27 17:37:58 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank
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Hi Brian,
I have the exact same issue with my Nekton sub.? I have limited access, but I plan to pour paint inside the?mbt and roll the sub so the paint can coat where I have welded.??
Hank?

From: brian <brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com>
To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:43:56 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank



Hi All,
??????????????? Very jealous I can't make it to the convention?;-)? !!?? I'm going to have a hard ballast tank which will be approx 21" in?diameter by?36" long.? I don't? really need to access the inside of the tank and I was wondering how I could seal the inside somehow.? Some type of epoxy coating.? But once I do any welding it will desrtoy any coating.? Any ideas ???

Thanks,??? Brian? 
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From alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 27 18:22:45 2013
From: alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 01:22:45 +0300
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank
In-Reply-To: <1377639478.57093.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <201308271343334.SM07364@[66.162.33.185]>
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Hi Hank,
Just a word of caution with that method,
The HMS Thetis was lost along with 99 persons due to paint clogging a tube
That was used to check whether there was water in the missile bay.
Alan


Sent from my iPad

On 28/08/2013, at 12:37 AM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> I have the exact same issue with my Nekton sub.  I have limited access, but I plan to pour paint inside the mbt and roll the sub so the paint can coat where I have welded.  
> Hank 
> 
> From: brian <brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com>
> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:43:56 PM
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank
> 
> Hi All,
>                 Very jealous I can't make it to the convention ;-)  !!   I'm going to have a hard ballast tank which will be approx 21" in diameter by 36" long.  I don't  really need to access the inside of the tank and I was wondering how I could seal the inside somehow.  Some type of epoxy coating.  But once I do any welding it will desrtoy any coating.  Any ideas ?  
> 
> Thanks,    Brian 
> 
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From brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com  Tue Aug 27 19:59:59 2013
From: brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com (brian)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:59:59 GMT
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank
Message-ID: <201308271659991.SM08856@[66.162.33.185]>

I could possibly put a couple of 3" threaded fittings and then put a threaded plug in there, just enough room to stick my arm in and a paint brush.
Brian?
-----Original Message-----
From: "Alan" <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com>
Sent 8/27/2013 3:22:45 PM
To: "hank pronk" <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>, "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tankHi Hank,Just a word of caution with that method,The HMS Thetis was lost along with 99 persons due to paint clogging a tubeThat was used to check whether there was water in the missile bay.Alan
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On 28/08/2013, at 12:37 AM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:Hi Brian,I have the exact same issue with my Nekton sub.? I have limited access, but I plan to pour paint inside the?mbt and roll the sub so the paint can coat where I have welded.??Hank?From: brian <brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com>To:personal_submersibles at psubs.orgSent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:43:56 PMSubject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tankHi All,
??????????????? Very jealous I can't make it to the convention?;-)? !!?? I'm going to have a hard ballast tank which will be approx 21" in?diameter by?36" long.? I don't? really need to access the inside of the tank and I was wondering how I could seal the inside somehow.? Some type of epoxy coating.? But once I do any welding it will desrtoy any coating.? Any ideas ???
Thanks,??? Brian? 
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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Tue Aug 27 20:34:39 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:34:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank
In-Reply-To: <201308271659991.SM08856@[66.162.33.185]>
References: <201308271659991.SM08856@[66.162.33.185]>
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Brian,
3in is pretty small for your arm,? I would dump a gallon or two ?of paint in and roll her over.? That is how we used to glass line tanks.
Hank

From: brian <brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:59:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank



I could possibly put a couple of 3" threaded fittings and then put a threaded plug in there, just enough room to stick my arm in and a paint brush.

Brian?

-----Original Message-----
From: "Alan" <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com>
Sent 8/27/2013 3:22:45 PM
To: "hank pronk" <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>, "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank


Hi Hank,
Just a word of caution with that method,
The HMS Thetis was lost along with 99 persons due to paint clogging a tube
That was used to check whether there was water in the missile bay.
Alan


Sent from my iPad

On 28/08/2013, at 12:37 AM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:


Hi Brian,
>I have the exact same issue with my Nekton sub.? I have limited access, but I plan to pour paint inside the?mbt and roll the sub so the paint can coat where I have welded.??
>Hank?
>
>
>From: brian <brian at ojaivalleybeefarm.com>
>To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:43:56 PM
>Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hard tank
>
>
>
>Hi All,
>??????????????? Very jealous I can't make it to the convention?;-)? !!?? I'm going to have a hard ballast tank which will be approx 21" in?diameter by?36" long.? I don't? really need to access the inside of the tank and I was wondering how I could seal the inside somehow.? Some type of epoxy coating.? But once I do any welding it will desrtoy any coating.? Any ideas ???
>
>Thanks,??? Brian? 
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From alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 28 02:34:46 2013
From: alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:34:46 +0300
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sodasorb
In-Reply-To: <20130827121615.49e8347f125ba4e1b2aff75c01b07c1e.c8c152ae69.wbe@email13.secureserver.net>
References: <20130827121615.49e8347f125ba4e1b2aff75c01b07c1e.c8c152ae69.wbe@email13.secureserver.net>
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Scott,
Just mention in case you are unaware. The absorbent comes in two types.
One with Colour indicator, one without. Get the colour indicating type.
I have read that you need to mark the level indicated by the colour on the
Canister as soon as you stop your scrubber, as there is some fading that occurs
Afterward. Have some but haven't used it, so open to contradiction.
Alan

Sent from my iPad

On 27/08/2013, at 10:16 PM, <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a recommendation on where to buy sodasorb? I am wanting to get it ordered so I have it in time for the conference. Also as long as it is sealed, what is the shelf life roughly?
> Thanks,
> Scott Waters
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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Wed Aug 28 08:36:36 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 05:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sodasorb
In-Reply-To: <08812674-B6EF-4C9F-B91B-4F31495EAA9A@yahoo.com>
References: <20130827121615.49e8347f125ba4e1b2aff75c01b07c1e.c8c152ae69.wbe@email13.secureserver.net>
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Alan,
I am somewhat new to using a scrubber, and I can not see through my canister.?? I would not spend any extra for colour indicating.??My testing revealed to me that our?instrumentation in our subs lets?us know? that something is not working properly very quickly.? ?I like the idea of two scrubbers, run it dry like a gas tank then switch over to the full tank.? If you use colour indicating you will throw it out before it is spent.? A second scrubber would pay for itself in no time with absorbent savings.
Hank

From: Alan <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:34:46 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sodasorb



Scott,
Just mention in case you are unaware. The absorbent comes in two types.
One with Colour indicator, one without. Get the colour indicating type.
I have read that you need to mark the level indicated by the colour on the
Canister as soon as you stop your scrubber, as there is some fading that occurs
Afterward. Have some but haven't used it, so open to contradiction.
Alan

Sent from my iPad

On 27/08/2013, at 10:16 PM, <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:


Does anyone have a recommendation on where to buy sodasorb? I am wanting to get it ordered so I have it in time for the conference. Also as long as it is sealed, what is the shelf life roughly?
>Thanks,
>Scott Waters
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From alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 28 10:37:14 2013
From: alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com (Alan)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:37:14 +0300
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sodasorb
In-Reply-To: <1377693396.99011.YahooMailNeo@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20130827121615.49e8347f125ba4e1b2aff75c01b07c1e.c8c152ae69.wbe@email13.secureserver.net>
 <08812674-B6EF-4C9F-B91B-4F31495EAA9A@yahoo.com>
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Hi Hank,
The idea of the colour indication is that you can physically see your absorbent
Being used up & take action before it runs out. Also you don't have to throw out the
Canister contents after a dive if you know how much life is left in it. If you are diving
several times with short duration dives, you will know where you are at with the colour
indicator.
Should have mentioned to Scott that absorbent is available from dive shops that cater
For rebreather divers.
Regards Alan

Sent from my iPad

On 28/08/2013, at 3:36 PM, hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Alan,
> I am somewhat new to using a scrubber, and I can not see through my canister.   I would not spend any extra for colour indicating.  My testing revealed to me that our instrumentation in our subs lets us know  that something is not working properly very quickly.   I like the idea of two scrubbers, run it dry like a gas tank then switch over to the full tank.  If you use colour indicating you will throw it out before it is spent.  A second scrubber would pay for itself in no time with absorbent savings.
> Hank
> 
> From: Alan <alanlindsayjames at yahoo.com>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:34:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sodasorb
> 
> Scott,
> Just mention in case you are unaware. The absorbent comes in two types.
> One with Colour indicator, one without. Get the colour indicating type.
> I have read that you need to mark the level indicated by the colour on the
> Canister as soon as you stop your scrubber, as there is some fading that occurs
> Afterward. Have some but haven't used it, so open to contradiction.
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 27/08/2013, at 10:16 PM, <swaters at waters-ks.com> wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone have a recommendation on where to buy sodasorb? I am wanting to get it ordered so I have it in time for the conference. Also as long as it is sealed, what is the shelf life roughly?
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Waters
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> 
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From JimToddPsub at aol.com  Sat Aug 31 08:20:51 2013
From: JimToddPsub at aol.com (JimToddPsub at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 08:20:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing
Message-ID: <c52dc.3aae706e.3f5339a3@aol.com>

The 2013 Psubs Convention at Islamorada is now just a  month away.  Some of 
you will be flying into either Miami International  (MIA) or Fort 
Lauderdale (FLL).
 
Miami to Islamorada:  75 miles, 1 hour 35 minutes per  Mapquest
Fort Lauderdale:  100 miles, 2 hours 4 minutes per  Mapquest
 
To facilitate sharing rides and rental cars, if you will  email your info 
to _JimToddPsub at aol.com_ (mailto:JimToddPsub at aol.com)   OFF LIST, I'll  share 
the info OFF LIST with others who are flying in.  I have made my  flight 
reservations and reserved a rental car.  Below is a list of info  that would 
be helpful:
 
Date of arrival
Time of arrival
Which airport  (kind of important, eh?)
Airline and Flight number
Cell phone number
Do you receive texts on your cell or not?
 
Same info needed regarding departure at the end of the  convention.  I will 
confirm receipt of each email. If I don't reply by  the end of that day, 
that means I didn't get it.
 
Looking forward to a few days in the Keys.
 
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From alecsmyth at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 11:21:26 2013
From: alecsmyth at gmail.com (Alec Smyth)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:21:26 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing
In-Reply-To: <c52dc.3aae706e.3f5339a3@aol.com>
References: <c52dc.3aae706e.3f5339a3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CABECYQ5UKkvpjJx-fgY-OWbiwK8zA0WRT9PR4epT7e=h1-BaWw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

This is a good idea!

The very first convention, in 2003, was held by a lakeside in Oregon. As I
drove through what seemed to me a fairly remote wilderness, I saw a bearded
back-packer walking on the shoulder. I would not normally stop and pick up
a stranger, but the desolation of the surroundings moved me to do so. I
asked where he was going and the response was startling both for it's
content as for the thick Scottish accent... "I'm going to a submarine
convention!" That was sufficient, I've counted Ian a good friend ever
since.

I was driving to the 2006 convention when I reached a T intersection and
stopped for a red light. While I was stopped a convoy of three or four
submarines went past, one of them towed by a school bus. There was no doubt
which way I had to turn at that intersection.

Recently I've become a fan of a free GPS/navigation phone app called Waze.
The main attraction is that it routes you based on current traffic speeds,
not just the shortest route, and it helps that it alerts you to speed
cameras, police on the shoulder, accidents, etc. Among other things, it
allows you to define groups. You can see members of your groups moving
along the map, although they also have an option to "go invisible". You can
exchange messages with them. I just created a group called PSUBS. I'd
really encourage everyone to try Waze because it's just so neat, but also
if you want to join the PSUBS group, we'll see each other converging on
Islamorada. I wish I'd had that when I blew a trailer tire on my way to
last years convention, and found the spare didn't fit.


Best,

Alec


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:20 AM, <JimToddPsub at aol.com> wrote:

> **
> The 2013 Psubs Convention at Islamorada is now just a month away.  Some of
> you will be flying into either Miami International (MIA) or Fort Lauderdale
> (FLL).
>
> Miami to Islamorada:  75 miles, 1 hour 35 minutes per Mapquest
> Fort Lauderdale:  100 miles, 2 hours 4 minutes per Mapquest
>
> To facilitate sharing rides and rental cars, if you will email your info
> to JimToddPsub at aol.com  OFF LIST, I'll share the info OFF LIST with
> others who are flying in.  I have made my flight reservations and reserved
> a rental car.  Below is a list of info that would be helpful:
>
> Date of arrival
> Time of arrival
> Which airport  (kind of important, eh?)
> Airline and Flight number
> Cell phone number
> Do you receive texts on your cell or not?
>
> Same info needed regarding departure at the end of the convention.  I will
> confirm receipt of each email. If I don't reply by the end of that day,
> that means I didn't get it.
>
> Looking forward to a few days in the Keys.
>
> Jim
>
>
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From hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca  Sat Aug 31 12:07:04 2013
From: hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca (hank pronk)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:07:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing
In-Reply-To: <CABECYQ5UKkvpjJx-fgY-OWbiwK8zA0WRT9PR4epT7e=h1-BaWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c52dc.3aae706e.3f5339a3@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <1377965224.42695.YahooMailNeo@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

What are the odds you would pick up a guy heading to a sub convention?
Hank

From: Alec Smyth <alecsmyth at gmail.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:21:26 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing



Hi all, 

This is a good idea!?

The very first convention, in 2003, was held by a lakeside in Oregon. As I drove through what seemed to me a fairly remote wilderness, I saw a bearded back-packer walking on the shoulder. I would not normally stop and pick up a stranger, but the desolation of the surroundings moved me to do so. I asked where he was going and the response was startling both for it's content as for the thick Scottish accent... "I'm going to a submarine convention!" That was sufficient, I've counted Ian a good friend ever since.?

I was driving to the 2006 convention when I reached a T intersection and stopped for a red light. While I was stopped a convoy of three or four submarines went past, one of them towed by a school bus. There was no doubt which way I had to turn at that intersection.

Recently I've become a fan of a free GPS/navigation phone app called Waze. The main attraction is that it routes you based on current traffic speeds, not just the shortest route, and it helps that it alerts you to speed cameras, police on the shoulder, accidents, etc. Among other things, it allows you to define groups. You can see members of your groups moving along the map, although they also have an option to "go invisible". You can exchange messages with them. I just created a group called PSUBS. I'd really encourage everyone to try Waze because it's just so neat, but also if you want to join the PSUBS group, we'll see each other converging on Islamorada. I wish I'd had that when I blew a trailer tire on my way to last years convention, and found the spare didn't fit.


Best,

Alec?



On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:20 AM, <JimToddPsub at aol.com> wrote:

The 2013 Psubs Convention at Islamorada?is now just a month away.? Some of you will be flying into either Miami International (MIA) or Fort Lauderdale (FLL).
>?
>Miami to Islamorada:? 75 miles, 1 hour 35 minutes per Mapquest
>Fort Lauderdale:? 100 miles, 2 hours 4 minutes per Mapquest
>?
>To facilitate sharing rides and rental cars, if you will email?your info to JimToddPsub at aol.com? OFF LIST, I'll share the info OFF LIST with others who are flying in.? I have made my flight reservations and reserved a rental car.? Below is a list of info that would be helpful:
>?
>Date of arrival
>Time of arrival
>Which airport? (kind of important, eh?)
>Airline and Flight number
>Cell phone number
>Do you receive texts on your cell or not?
>?
>Same info needed regarding departure at the end of the convention.? I will confirm receipt of each email. If?I don't reply by the end of that day, that means I didn't get it.
>?
>Looking forward to a few days in the Keys.
>?
>Jim
>?
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From JimToddPsub at aol.com  Sat Aug 31 15:57:45 2013
From: JimToddPsub at aol.com (JimToddPsub at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 15:57:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] WAZE
Message-ID: <115930.39c314df.3f53a4b9@aol.com>

Alec,
WAZE sounds intriguing.  Do the groups only work in  conjunction with 
Facebook, or can you join the groups without being on  Facebook?
Jim
 
 
In a message dated 8/31/2013 10:22:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
alecsmyth at gmail.com writes:

Hi all,  


This is a good idea! 


The very first convention, in 2003, was held by a lakeside in Oregon. As  I 
drove through what seemed to me a fairly remote wilderness, I saw a bearded 
 back-packer walking on the shoulder. I would not normally stop and pick up 
a  stranger, but the desolation of the surroundings moved me to do so. I 
asked  where he was going and the response was startling both for it's content 
as for  the thick Scottish accent... "I'm going to a submarine convention!" 
That was  sufficient, I've counted Ian a good friend ever since. 


I was driving to the 2006 convention when I reached a T intersection and  
stopped for a red light. While I was stopped a convoy of three or four  
submarines went past, one of them towed by a school bus. There was no doubt  
which way I had to turn at that intersection.


Recently I've become a fan of a free GPS/navigation phone app called  Waze. 
The main attraction is that it routes you based on current traffic  speeds, 
not just the shortest route, and it helps that it alerts you to speed  
cameras, police on the shoulder, accidents, etc. Among other things, it allows  
you to define groups. You can see members of your groups moving along the 
map,  although they also have an option to "go invisible". You can exchange 
messages  with them. I just created a group called PSUBS. I'd really encourage 
everyone  to try Waze because it's just so neat, but also if you want to 
join the PSUBS  group, we'll see each other converging on Islamorada. I wish 
I'd had that when  I blew a trailer tire on my way to last years convention, 
and found the spare  didn't fit.




Best,

Alec 



On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:20 AM, <_JimToddPsub at aol.com_ 
(mailto:JimToddPsub at aol.com) > wrote:


The 2013 Psubs Convention at Islamorada is now just a  month away.  Some of 
you will be flying into either Miami International  (MIA) or Fort 
Lauderdale (FLL).
 
Miami to Islamorada:  75 miles, 1 hour 35 minutes per  Mapquest
Fort Lauderdale:  100 miles, 2 hours 4 minutes per  Mapquest
 
To facilitate sharing rides and rental cars, if you will  email your info 
to _JimToddPsub at aol.com_ (mailto:JimToddPsub at aol.com)   OFF LIST, I'll share 
the info  OFF LIST with others who are flying in.  I have made my flight  
reservations and reserved a rental car.  Below is a list of info that  would 
be helpful:
 
Date of arrival
Time of arrival
Which airport  (kind of important, eh?)
Airline and Flight number
Cell phone number
Do you receive texts on your cell or not?
 
Same info needed regarding departure at the end of the  convention.  I will 
confirm receipt of each email. If I don't  reply by the end of that day, 
that means I didn't get it.
 
Looking forward to a few days in the Keys.
 
Jim
 


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From vbra676539 at aol.com  Sat Aug 31 16:35:52 2013
From: vbra676539 at aol.com (vbra676539 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:35:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing
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They used to say that you could pick a Vietnam vet out of a crowd of non-vets just by the thousand yard stare. (We tend to keep an eye out for ambush, and never got over it). A psub vet might have a recognizable ten yard stare (considering visibility limitations). Could that be recognizable at a distance?
Vance

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From: hank pronk <hanker_20032000 at yahoo.ca>
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Sent: Sat, Aug 31, 2013 9:07 am
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing



What are the odds you would pick up a guy heading to a sub convention?
Hank




From: Alec Smyth <alecsmyth at gmail.com>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:21:26 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing



Hi all,


This is a good idea! 


The very first convention, in 2003, was held by a lakeside in Oregon. As I drove through what seemed to me a fairly remote wilderness, I saw a bearded back-packer walking on the shoulder. I would not normally stop and pick up a stranger, but the desolation of the surroundings moved me to do so. I asked where he was going and the response was startling both for it's content as for the thick Scottish accent... "I'm going to a submarine convention!" That was sufficient, I've counted Ian a good friend ever since. 


I was driving to the 2006 convention when I reached a T intersection and stopped for a red light. While I was stopped a convoy of three or four submarines went past, one of them towed by a school bus. There was no doubt which way I had to turn at that intersection.


Recently I've become a fan of a free GPS/navigation phone app called Waze. The main attraction is that it routes you based on current traffic speeds, not just the shortest route, and it helps that it alerts you to speed cameras, police on the shoulder, accidents, etc. Among other things, it allows you to define groups. You can see members of your groups moving along the map, although they also have an option to "go invisible". You can exchange messages with them. I just created a group called PSUBS. I'd really encourage everyone to try Waze because it's just so neat, but also if you want to join the PSUBS group, we'll see each other converging on Islamorada. I wish I'd had that when I blew a trailer tire on my way to last years convention, and found the spare didn't fit.




Best,

Alec 




On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:20 AM, <JimToddPsub at aol.com> wrote:


The 2013 Psubs Convention at Islamorada is now just a month away.  Some of you will be flying into either Miami International (MIA) or Fort Lauderdale (FLL).
 
Miami to Islamorada:  75 miles, 1 hour 35 minutes per Mapquest
Fort Lauderdale:  100 miles, 2 hours 4 minutes per Mapquest
 
To facilitate sharing rides and rental cars, if you will email your info to JimToddPsub at aol.com  OFF LIST, I'll share the info OFF LIST with others who are flying in.  I have made my flight reservations and reserved a rental car.  Below is a list of info that would be helpful:
 
Date of arrival
Time of arrival
Which airport  (kind of important, eh?)
Airline and Flight number
Cell phone number
Do you receive texts on your cell or not?
 
Same info needed regarding departure at the end of the convention.  I will confirm receipt of each email. If I don't reply by the end of that day, that means I didn't get it.
 
Looking forward to a few days in the Keys.
 
Jim
 

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From alecsmyth at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 17:54:57 2013
From: alecsmyth at gmail.com (Alec Smyth)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 17:54:57 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] WAZE
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No requirement for Facebook as I understand it.


Best,

Alec


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:57 PM, <JimToddPsub at aol.com> wrote:

> **
> Alec,
> WAZE sounds intriguing.  Do the groups only work in conjunction with
> Facebook, or can you join the groups without being on Facebook?
> Jim
>
>  In a message dated 8/31/2013 10:22:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> alecsmyth at gmail.com writes:
>
> Hi all,
>
> This is a good idea!
>
> The very first convention, in 2003, was held by a lakeside in Oregon. As I
> drove through what seemed to me a fairly remote wilderness, I saw a bearded
> back-packer walking on the shoulder. I would not normally stop and pick up
> a stranger, but the desolation of the surroundings moved me to do so. I
> asked where he was going and the response was startling both for it's
> content as for the thick Scottish accent... "I'm going to a submarine
> convention!" That was sufficient, I've counted Ian a good friend ever
> since.
>
> I was driving to the 2006 convention when I reached a T intersection and
> stopped for a red light. While I was stopped a convoy of three or four
> submarines went past, one of them towed by a school bus. There was no doubt
> which way I had to turn at that intersection.
>
> Recently I've become a fan of a free GPS/navigation phone app called Waze.
> The main attraction is that it routes you based on current traffic speeds,
> not just the shortest route, and it helps that it alerts you to speed
> cameras, police on the shoulder, accidents, etc. Among other things, it
> allows you to define groups. You can see members of your groups moving
> along the map, although they also have an option to "go invisible". You can
> exchange messages with them. I just created a group called PSUBS. I'd
> really encourage everyone to try Waze because it's just so neat, but also
> if you want to join the PSUBS group, we'll see each other converging on
> Islamorada. I wish I'd had that when I blew a trailer tire on my way to
> last years convention, and found the spare didn't fit.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Alec
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:20 AM, <JimToddPsub at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> The 2013 Psubs Convention at Islamorada is now just a month away.  Some
>> of you will be flying into either Miami International (MIA) or Fort
>> Lauderdale (FLL).
>>
>> Miami to Islamorada:  75 miles, 1 hour 35 minutes per Mapquest
>> Fort Lauderdale:  100 miles, 2 hours 4 minutes per Mapquest
>>
>> To facilitate sharing rides and rental cars, if you will email your info
>> to JimToddPsub at aol.com  OFF LIST, I'll share the info OFF LIST with
>> others who are flying in.  I have made my flight reservations and reserved
>> a rental car.  Below is a list of info that would be helpful:
>>
>> Date of arrival
>> Time of arrival
>> Which airport  (kind of important, eh?)
>> Airline and Flight number
>> Cell phone number
>> Do you receive texts on your cell or not?
>>
>> Same info needed regarding departure at the end of the convention.  I
>> will confirm receipt of each email. If I don't reply by the end of that
>> day, that means I didn't get it.
>>
>> Looking forward to a few days in the Keys.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
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From jonw at psubs.org  Sat Aug 31 18:11:02 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 18:11:02 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing
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Now that is just way too cool.  That will also come in handy when we 
travel to the Jules lodge and also to the boat launch.


On 8/31/2013 11:21 AM, Alec Smyth wrote:
>
> Recently I've become a fan of a free GPS/navigation phone app called 
> Waze. The main attraction is that it routes you based on current 
> traffic speeds, not just the shortest route, and it helps that it 
> alerts you to speed cameras, police on the shoulder, accidents, etc. 
> Among other things, it allows you to define groups. You can see 
> members of your groups moving along the map, although they also have 
> an option to "go invisible". You can exchange messages with them. I 
> just created a group called PSUBS. I'd really encourage everyone to 
> try Waze because it's just so neat, but also if you want to join the 
> PSUBS group, we'll see each other converging on Islamorada. I wish I'd 
> had that when I blew a trailer tire on my way to last years 
> convention, and found the spare didn't fit.
>
>
>


From alecsmyth at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 19:09:23 2013
From: alecsmyth at gmail.com (Alec Smyth)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:09:23 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing
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...and handy when a sub surfaces a mile from the support boat. Assuming
that you're referring to Waze and not the ten foot stare!

Best,

Alec


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Jon Wallace <jonw at psubs.org> wrote:

>
> Now that is just way too cool.  That will also come in handy when we
> travel to the Jules lodge and also to the boat launch.
>
>
>
> On 8/31/2013 11:21 AM, Alec Smyth wrote:
>
>>
>> Recently I've become a fan of a free GPS/navigation phone app called
>> Waze. The main attraction is that it routes you based on current traffic
>> speeds, not just the shortest route, and it helps that it alerts you to
>> speed cameras, police on the shoulder, accidents, etc. Among other things,
>> it allows you to define groups. You can see members of your groups moving
>> along the map, although they also have an option to "go invisible". You can
>> exchange messages with them. I just created a group called PSUBS. I'd
>> really encourage everyone to try Waze because it's just so neat, but also
>> if you want to join the PSUBS group, we'll see each other converging on
>> Islamorada. I wish I'd had that when I blew a trailer tire on my way to
>> last years convention, and found the spare didn't fit.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From jonw at psubs.org  Sat Aug 31 19:31:46 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:31:46 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing
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That's what I was thinking too...and with an antenna at the surface you 
have a very inexpensive tracking device during dive ops.

I'm hoping the visibility in the keys will turn that 10-yard stare into 
a 20-yard stare.



On 8/31/2013 7:09 PM, Alec Smyth wrote:
> ...and handy when a sub surfaces a mile from the support boat. 
> Assuming that you're referring to Waze and not the ten foot stare!
>
> Best,
>
> Alec
>


From jonw at psubs.org  Sat Aug 31 19:38:40 2013
From: jonw at psubs.org (Jon Wallace)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:38:40 -0400
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing
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A couple of videos filmed in the month of October showing what we can 
likely expect for visibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmjeny_p5qA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izVJNCZSZms



From josephperkel at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 31 22:44:51 2013
From: josephperkel at yahoo.com (Joe Perkel)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:44:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention - Ride sharing
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"...They used to say that you could pick a Vietnam vet out of a crowd of non-vets just by the thousand yard stare. (We tend to keep an eye out for ambush, and never got over it)...."<br/><br/>Vance,<br/><br/> I'm seeing a whole lot of PTSD at the VA from both OIF & OEF. (A whole lot). A different kind of ambush, you can't see the IED coming. It's leaving them quite unnerved. <br/><br/>Joe<br/><br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
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